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hi all I have a quick question, to get my +n in the skills column for proficient skills do i add the multiplier from the attributes list ie my charisma is +3 do i then add my proficiency bonus of +5 to get +8 in my skills list and then when I get expertise in a skill do I double the entire thing or just the base score of +3 then add the +5 bonus? sorry it's just very unclear in the PHB

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  • \$\begingroup\$ A +5 proficiency bonus? What level are you playing at? \$\endgroup\$ – Erik Sep 28 '16 at 11:39
  • \$\begingroup\$ level, 13 rogue and yeah i mean modifier \$\endgroup\$ – matthew Walker Sep 28 '16 at 11:41
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    \$\begingroup\$ As a general comment: don't start at level 13 if you don't yet know how proficiency works. You're going to be swamped by complexity. Low levels are there for a reason. \$\endgroup\$ – Erik Sep 28 '16 at 14:07

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