If creature B is grappling creature A, then creature C grapples creature B, can creature C move creature B at half movement as per grappling rules on PHB 195? If so, would that automatically break the B-A grapple or would A be grappled as well?

This came up in a game where the Druid turned into a giant squid, grappled an enemy, and then a Roc grappled and pulled the Druid off the boat. DM played it that the enemy was pulled up into the air with the Roc→giant squid combo to humorous results, but I was wondering about the actual ruling.


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the B-A grapple would be broken, as specified by the details of the Grappled condition in Appendix A of the Player's Handbook

The condition also ends if an effect removes the grappled creature from the reach of the grappler or grappling effect, such as when a creature is hurled away by the thunderwave spell. (PHB, 290)

  • \$\begingroup\$ Providing C had the strength to move be B if using encumberance \$\endgroup\$
    – Dale M
    Oct 8, 2016 at 5:14
  • \$\begingroup\$ Well, encumbrance still lets you to go up to your max carrying capacity of 15 times your strength, and a Roc has 28 Strength, for a carry capacity of 420 pounds. Google search turns up the average weight of a giant squid at 440 pounds. However, push drag and lift allows for up to double your carrying capacity, for 840 pounds, but it also reduces speed to 5 feet when they go over their carrying capacity. For the Roc pulling them away, you can move a grappled creature at half your speed, unless they're at least 2 sizes smaller. So it depends on if the squid is Large or Huge. \$\endgroup\$
    – J Nason
    Oct 8, 2016 at 5:37
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    \$\begingroup\$ @J Nason remember to double the carrying capacity for each size category above Medium. So the Roc actually has a carrying capacity of 420 x 8 = 3360 pounds. \$\endgroup\$
    – MrNattious
    Oct 8, 2016 at 20:04

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