I'm trying to create a character with an online character sheet from google docs and the calculations are coming up unexpectedly. I suspect there is an error in the formula, so I want to make sure I understand the character creation rules.

For a 3rd level Sorcerer with a CHA of 19 they will know: 6 - 0 Level Spells; 3 1st Level Spells (7 per day); 1 - 2nd Level Spell (4 per day)? This is what the semi-auto calcing sheet came up with.

Is that correct?


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According to the Pathfinder Core Rule Book:

On page 17 (Table 1-3: Ability Modifiers and Bonus Spells) a Charisma of 19 would give a +4 modifier to CHA and 1 extra bonus spell for 1st-Level spells.

In addition to this, on page 72 (Table 3-14: Sorcerer) a 3rd level Sorcerer only can cast 5 1st-level spells per day. Your Charisma score bonus spells would be added on here, allowing you to cast your selected 1st-level spells 6 times per day.

And finally, on page 73 (Table 3-15: Sorcerer Spells Known), a 3rd level Sorcerer would only know 5 0-level spells and 3 1st-level spells.

So, to answer your question, your 3rd level Sorcerer would have the following:

0-Level Spells: 5 known, Unlimited times per day

1st-Level Spells: 3 known, 6 times per day

This is without your Bloodline bonus spell at 3rd level. Including that you would have the following:

0-Level Spells: 5 known, Unlimited times per day

1st-Level Spells: 4 known, 6 times per day

  • \$\begingroup\$ That's what I thought. So the Google Docs character sheet is calculating too high. Probably what a Wizard would get instead of a Sorcerer. Thank you. \$\endgroup\$ Jul 23, 2011 at 6:01
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    \$\begingroup\$ Yeah, it's overpowering your L3 Sorcerer quite a bit (for example, you don't get access to level 2 spells until you are 4th level!) Glad I could help :-) \$\endgroup\$ Jul 23, 2011 at 6:35
  • \$\begingroup\$ Check for the new version: 11-14-2011 Version 1.5.4 Fixed a bug with the sorcerer spell calculations. \$\endgroup\$
    – SeanC
    Jul 6, 2012 at 15:10

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