As a follow-up to Can a Ioun Stone be made cracked?, if an Ioun Stone can be made "cracked" on purpose, what would its creation price be?

I am thinking specifically of the orange prism: it has a listed price of 30,000 gp and a creation cost of 15,000 gp, while the "cracked" version has a listed price of 1,000 gp but no creation cost.

Does this mean I'd still have to pay full creation cost even if I really wanted the cracked one?

  • \$\begingroup\$ @SevenSidedDie may I ask you why in my other question you removed the [magic-items] tag, yet here you left it? No criticism here, just trying to understand. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Dec 13, 2016 at 13:13
  • \$\begingroup\$ Oh sorry. That wasn't deliberate. The [magic-item-creation] tag is still relatively new so we're not yet settled on whether it is redundant to use [magic-items] at the same time, and I guess I didn't consistently edit one way or the other. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Dec 13, 2016 at 15:19

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Ioun stones are wondrous items.

From Creating Wondrous Items:

Creating an item costs half the market value listed.

Equivalently, from the Craft Wondrous Item feat:

To create a wondrous item, you must use up raw materials costing half of its base price.

So a cracked ioun stone would cost half as much to make as it would cost to buy. 500 gp in the case you’re asking about.

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    \$\begingroup\$ +1. I tend to agree with this because who says that it needed to have been whole at some point? Really all you are doing in this case is buying a cracked stone, and making it float. From d20pfsrd on cracked Ioun Stones: "These stones bear an obvious crack, whether as the result of the crafting process, because the raw stone was already cracked or the stone has been damaged." \$\endgroup\$
    – BaseHobo
    Commented Dec 12, 2016 at 18:22
  • \$\begingroup\$ I provided an answer to the original question referenced here, and I agree with this - I already added some information to my answer to the base question hinting at this. \$\endgroup\$
    – khaoliang
    Commented Dec 13, 2016 at 10:33

This is a difficult one to answer.

The best answer is RAW: you must pay the full cost. This is because cracked stones should be the result of improperly trying to create one (similar to cursed items), and broken are from damage. This also takes into account that broken (and possibly cracked) stones can be repaired to make them fully functional. So if you made a cheaper cracked or broken stone, you could just repair it to get the better stone and have paid a lower overall cost.

However since you could start with an already cracked or broken stone as the crafting component, which will directly influence the end result an argument could be made. You could speak with your GM and see if they will allow you to craft the broken one, say its the base ioun stone itself which is the expensive component for the crafting, so by getting a broken one you save yourself that money. It could also be considered that cracked and broken stones cant be used at the start of crafting and are thus fully a result of incorrect procedures. In this case I would not allow it to be repaired to become a fully functional stone, or increase the repair price to make up the difference.


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