I've been playing 4e for a few months now and I'm really interested in creating a dungeon crawl in which the PCs can choose to stealthily kill off certain monsters before they are able to alert other enemies or bosses. I've been throwing some ideas around, but haven't really had any luck in trying to think of a reasonable instant-kill system. Although I want to reward my players for good rolls and inventive thinking on how to stealthily bypass the guards, I don't want my players to think that instant kills are a norm for every monster in every dungeon. I'd prefer not to make it a skill challenge. How can I implement a stealth-based system for allowing instant kills on monsters by PCs?

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    \$\begingroup\$ @Desi I understand your resistance to minions, I feel the same way sometimes. But when I thought about it, in every stealth movie, the 'lookout' always seems to die in one hit for one reason or another. They really are just minions. Also, if you up hte minions a few levels, then if they do miss, its still a fight of consequence. Don't tell the PCs they are minions at first maybe? \$\endgroup\$
    – GMNoob
    Jul 28, 2011 at 6:54

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Take a look at Break & Enter by Emerald Press. I have a copy and it provides an excellent framework for stealth encounters complete with stealth kills and ways the entire party can participate. (Link to driveThruPress)

It offers a way of calculating "unaware HP" that only enemies not aware of the players' presences have, and adjudicating attacks against them. It's certainly worth trying if you find your players wanting to do quite a lot of sneaking, as the default rules do not support that kind of play.

Without going into detail about the excellent stealth mechanics, guards going on their rounds and so on, we have selected excerpts:

To understand the function of a stealth encounter, we must first explore its need. All heroes find themselves between a rock and hard place at some point in their travels. Your dailies are used up, most of you have expended your second wind, and you’ve wound up knee deep in enemy territory. Taking an extended rest is not possible until you find a haven somewhere within the dragon’s lair away from the uncounted demon minions guarding that immense treasure and patrolling the winding caverns. Up ahead, a pair of drakes feed on their latest catch. Their backs are turned to you, their snouts engorging on the innards of a poor villager. According to the map, you’re mere feet away from the guardhouse and the door just behind those beasts is the only means to access the inner sanctum of the lair, but your party is weak from your previous efforts. You need to take out those drakes quickly and quietly.

Cue the stealth encounter.

Stealth encounters allow the GM to replace an existing combat sequence with subterfuge and surprise without altering the build and composition of the player charac- ters. By sneaking up on the unsuspecting drakes in the example above, the PCs can eliminate them quickly without any unwanted attention from other targets nearby. They use skill checks (just as they would in a skill challenge) to create combat results (as with a combat encounter). More importantly, running a stealth encounter allows the GM the opportunity to continue large portions of an adventure with few modifications until the heroes find themselves in a favorable situation or it is no longer feasible to creep and skulk. Once the PCs get past the drakes in the paragraph above, they can continue sneaking through the lair until they have been spotted and an alarm sounds or they reach the dragon himself and engage in open combat.


Unaware HP is a mob's Constitution modifier (minimum 1) with more if they're large, and wisdom modifier if they're elite or solo. Standard creating a mob calculations for everything else. (page 24-25)

Looking at how this plays out, the emphasis is on quiet, silent, attacks... rather than big flashy attacks that make noise, have arrows passing through visual range, or have showy magic. Because an elite or solo can be dropped by any character in a round, a scene's tension is not in 5 rounds of combat, but a slow build over many rounds of a successful sneak to get to that point. When considered over average numbers of rolls, the amount of time a character spends getting in position, cleaning up after the body, and the number of stealth checks necessary more than makes up for the quite neat consequence of dropping the solo in one hit if everything goes according to plan.


You could house rule the scenario by saying that making an attack against an opponent who is totally unaware that there is danger in the offing scores a coup-de-grasDDI, and so essentially you let them auto-crit, and can kill outright with a bigger-than-bloody-them hit.

Obviously against minion guards this doesn't really change much, but against tougher opponents it means that they may kill in one shot, and should have a half-reasonable chance of doing so... but may not. Which gives you a chance for tense die rolling.

Have them use skills to get into position.

If there are multiple targets, then let the players pick one character to attack each target, and let them get the coup de gras.

If anyone fails to kill, have the surviving monsters and players who've not acted roll initiative... players that win, can try to finish off the opposition before they can react.

  • \$\begingroup\$ Oh wow, that's actually perfect. I was a little wary of using the coup de grace when I first read about it since I always thought it was a little unfair but I think my players would really go for this method. Thankyou very much ^^. \$\endgroup\$
    – Desi
    Jul 28, 2011 at 4:02
  • \$\begingroup\$ Ah okay, I still need some getting used to with this site XD \$\endgroup\$
    – Desi
    Jul 28, 2011 at 6:09
  • \$\begingroup\$ I like this idea, it was my first reaction when I read the question, and I think I'm going to use it. Just make the DC hard for the stealth check, or DM determines if they're considered helpless for the attack. \$\endgroup\$
    – Sam Hoice
    Jul 28, 2011 at 16:03

How about adding a stealth check as bonus damage? At low levels that could be an instant kill, but isn't guaranteed. If you have the whole party jumping a single guard, it's probably a one turn kill. I'd also consider letting players inflict status effects depending on the result of the roll. Like, on a stealth 30, you can line up your shot just right and daze the enemy. On a 50 you stun them. That lets really stealthy characters set up enemies for the rest of the party.

I know you said no skill challenges, but you should make sure the party can use their other skills. You don't want stealth to be the win button that all players end up taking. Make them use their athletics to get into the hard to reach location that's really well hidden. Or dungeoneering to know if the troglodyte guards use sight or smell. Then once the players have done that, they can use stealth for a bonus on their ambush.

(Incidentally, MERP had a separate skill for ambush. MERP also involved rolling critical hits against a table. Some table results were instant kills. IIRC if you succeeded at ambushing someone you could adjust your critical result by your ambush skill. I think I was aiming for something along those lines, but without a critical hit table, it doesn't translate very well.)

  • \$\begingroup\$ That's a good point, I wouldn't want stealth being the go-to skill, especially with a dragonborn paladin in the group, lol. And adding the check as a modifier would be a great help to my players. I could even implement aid-another if certain conditions are met. I'm really interested in this critical hit table, however, and MERP. What is MERP if you don't mind me asking. \$\endgroup\$
    – Desi
    Jul 28, 2011 at 4:30
  • \$\begingroup\$ I think I might make a house-rule that on a successful roll that is no more than 5 of the DC, only the damage will count, but a roll that succeeds with more than 5 will also include any effects that the skill or power normally incurs. Thanks for the help btw. \$\endgroup\$
    – Desi
    Jul 28, 2011 at 4:33
  • \$\begingroup\$ @Desi: Middle-Earth Role-Playing, essentially a slightly tuned Rolemaster edition, designed for adventures in Tolkien's Middle Earth (Swedish readers may recall it as SRR - Sagan om Ringen, Rollspelet). \$\endgroup\$
    – Vatine
    Jul 28, 2011 at 12:38

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