We are fighting a lot of high level demons, it is probably going to be worse.

My Wizard is specialized on Enervation (Spell Perfection, Mythic). I am looking for ways to deliver the spell even if I face the immunities of Demon Lords like Ability Damage, Ability Drain, Death Effects, and Energy Drain.
Can these immunities be overcome?

I know about the Fireball Augmented Version that can bypass fire immunity, so it looks like there are ways bypassing immunities. I know that there is not a comparable augmented version of Enervation.

What are other ways to bypass these immunities?


1 Answer 1


Thanatopic Spell

A thanatopic spell pierces defenses and immunities that protect against death effects, negative levels, and energy drain, affecting the target as if the protective barrier did not exist.


If a GM has the opinion this is for only for undead, it is probably intended with undead immunities in mind; the language itself makes it inclusive and exclusive.

The descriptive text:

Your spells can pierce wards against negative energy and even affect undead targets.

And, in this case, is a definite "in addition to."

The normal effects text:

Defenses such as death ward negate death effects, negative levels, and energy drain. Undead are immune to these attacks.

Undead are immune to these attacks, in this case, is a separate sentence, which is separate, but related to, the previous sentence.

  • \$\begingroup\$ I would make sure to double check with your GM before using the feat, it specifically calls out wards and undead as its intended use; just verify that they agree it also affects your intended targets. I'm not saying this answer is wrong, but with a slightly different reading, your GM might rule against it for your table. \$\endgroup\$
    – Ifusaso
    Jan 31, 2017 at 15:56
  • \$\begingroup\$ @Ifusaso You're referring to the example provided in the feat. \$\endgroup\$
    – Zangief
    Feb 1, 2017 at 5:43
  • \$\begingroup\$ Actually I'm referring to the flavor text and the 'as opposed to' line: "Normal: Defenses such as death ward negate death effects, negative levels, and energy drain. Undead are immune to these attacks." As I said, I don't disagree with the answer, and upvoted it. I just thought this a good addition since some GM's might rule different. \$\endgroup\$
    – Ifusaso
    Feb 2, 2017 at 1:01
  • \$\begingroup\$ @Ifusaso Edited to include your position. \$\endgroup\$
    – Zangief
    Feb 2, 2017 at 7:18
  • \$\begingroup\$ If a GM rules different he isn't going by raw on his decision, which is fine as he is the GM. \$\endgroup\$
    – ShadowKras
    Feb 2, 2017 at 13:01

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