I'm playing a Pathfinder campaign, playing a level 3 Magus (Soul Forger archetype) in a Open-World mostly Sandbox game. My plan is to make him a professional crafter. I've already bought Mastercraft Tools and a little workshop for him to work, sell and craft.

I have some questions about MasterWork weapons based on these rules:

To create a masterwork item, you create the masterwork component as if it were a separate item in addition to the standard item. The masterwork component has its own price (300 gp for a weapon or 150 gp for a suit of armor or a shield, see Equipment for the price of other masterwork tools) and a Craft DC of 20. Once both the standard component and the masterwork component are completed, the masterwork item is finished. The cost you pay for the masterwork component is one-third of the given amount, just as it is for the cost in raw materials.

Then, I think as a "roleplayer", can't someone come, with his own weapon, and ask me to make it "Masterwork"?

I can't find any resources about "Upgrade" weapons from crafting. The strange thing is, you can upgrade them by paying. By that I mean, if you have a normal weapon, you can make it masterwork/magic enhancement just paying the difference.

So, is there no way to "un-craft" your original weapon to "lower" the cost of making a new one? I am thinking about a way to "re-forge" it or get the raw materials of it. How can I do this?

  • \$\begingroup\$ Hello. It seems to me that title does not meet the body of your question. I did my best to fix it, feel free to edit again or rollback if your intention was different. \$\endgroup\$
    – Mołot
    Jan 30, 2017 at 13:23
  • \$\begingroup\$ Yeah, I thought it when i saw the answer about "dismanteling", it's better way to say it, but your's is also valid, and as the answer is good enough, I think I'm gonna leave it as yours. (Sorry for my English, not my native language :c) \$\endgroup\$
    – Mikiodelg
    Jan 30, 2017 at 13:57

2 Answers 2


There is no such rule. You can't upgrade to masterwork an already existing non-masterwork weapon.

And that makes perfect sense: If your sword is made of poor quality steel with a bad designed handle it is easier to just make an other one than "upgrading" yours.

On a gameplay aspect, non-masterwork weapons usually costs a ridiculously small amount of gold compared to the masterwork price (between 0 and 20 gp when the masterwork difference is 300 gp). For this reason you don't really gain anything by re-crafting an already existing weapon.

Concerning dismanteling a weapon to salvage its components there is no reason for that to be impossible but I can't remember of any rule about that. As a GM I would say you can recover up to the cost of the materials used to craft it, depending on how high you roll on an appropriate craft check.

  • 9
    \$\begingroup\$ There is a spell, masterwork transformation (Ultimate Magic), that turns an item into its masterwork version. The catch is that it has a material component worth the difference in price. So even a 2nd-level spell doesn't help that much. It's just best to sell the original and buy a new, masterwork version. \$\endgroup\$
    – MGlacier
    Jan 30, 2017 at 13:49

Here are 2 ways to turn a non-masterwork weapon into a masterwork weapon.

Masterwork Transformation

You convert a non-masterwork item into its masterwork equivalent.

This spell can be obtained as a Scroll then any of these classes cast it for you:

arcanist 2, bard 2, cleric/oracle 2, druid 2, hunter 2, occultist 2, red mantis assassin 2, skald 2, sorcerer/wizard 2, warpriest 2, witch 2

The 2 after the class name indicates the minimum Spell Level (not caster level) needed to cast the scroll without problem.

Remember that this spell exists in both Arcane and Divine form, GM may be a stickler for which version you get and which version can be cast. A scroll has a market price of 25 x spell level x caster level so this scroll would cost you 150gp, but then the material component included a total of 450gp.

Services may also be directly purchased by hiring a spellcaster for a price of spell level x caster level x 10gp + material component. So 360gp.

Exemplar Weapon Salve

This alchemical salve strengthens the material of a weapon, improves its balance, gives it greater flexibility without sacrificing resilience, and enhances its ability to hold an edge or point and survive an impact. An application turns a typical nonmagical melee weapon into a masterwork weapon. A double weapon requires 2 doses of exemplar weapon salve, and 50 arrows, bolts, or similar ammunition can be enhanced by a single application.

Note it can only turn melee weapons from non-masterwork to masterwork but it's only 350gp. It's an item you can buy and apply yourself or even craft.

However it doesn't seem that you can get this back, just as if you pay someone to dig a ditch, filling the ditch back in isn't going to grant you back the money you spent paying the person to do the original work. You can still sell the new masterwork item for its market value.

  • \$\begingroup\$ Not what I'm Looking for, as I'm Magus i can't access to that Spell and hiring a Spellcaster would be more expensive than craft it by my own, but Thanks for the other option showed. \$\endgroup\$
    – Mikiodelg
    Jan 30, 2017 at 14:39
  • \$\begingroup\$ @Mikiodelg well, you can't craft it on your own. You have to have made it masterwork when it was made (or someone else did and you buy it off them) or use the above methods. They shouldn't count against your character's Wealth Per Level (see gamemastering section of PF rules) as that's calculated by the total value of items currently in your possession. So spending 360gp to make a weapon Masterwork will only increase your personal wealth by 300gp. \$\endgroup\$
    – TREB
    Jan 30, 2017 at 22:23
  • \$\begingroup\$ That's why i was looking for a way to make it since it was made, and non magic way. \$\endgroup\$
    – Mikiodelg
    Jan 31, 2017 at 8:19
  • \$\begingroup\$ Exemplar Weapon Salve is non-magical. Alchemy isn't magic. You could craft exemplar weapon salve for a fraction of it's market price but the craft DC isn't listed in the rules, GM would have to decide what is a fair DC. \$\endgroup\$
    – TREB
    Jan 31, 2017 at 15:15
  • \$\begingroup\$ The Salve is a better way for what i wanted to do, but right now I'm dont have the Alchemy Craft Skill (But I can get a partner who has, and maybe i can make him work for my forge...) So thanks! \$\endgroup\$
    – Mikiodelg
    Jan 31, 2017 at 15:32

You must log in to answer this question.

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged .