Undead are generally evil because the cosmology says they are. I want to build a cosmology where undead are not intrinsically evil (but can be if, say, animated by demons). Most undead encountered by the heroes will be evil and need slaying, but otherwise there are societies where people donate their bodies after death to serve the community or where undead form respected members of the community. What rules changes need I make to allow this?

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    \$\begingroup\$ You might look at Planescape AD&D settings - e.g. Planescape: Torment CRPG for inspiration. \$\endgroup\$
    – Edheldil
    Commented Feb 28, 2017 at 16:28
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    \$\begingroup\$ For more inspiration; Eberron's Undying Court, which is made up of Good-aligned undead Elves. \$\endgroup\$
    – Erik
    Commented Feb 28, 2017 at 22:31
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    \$\begingroup\$ Is there a reason why an evil creature can not be respected member of the community? Humans can be evil. Innate evil creatures (e.g. efreet, fire giants) can form communities as well (City of Brass). \$\endgroup\$
    – enkryptor
    Commented Mar 1, 2017 at 9:32
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    \$\begingroup\$ @enkryptor: I never understood alignment no matter how many explanations I read. It is divorced from all real life models of morality. \$\endgroup\$
    – Anonymous
    Commented Mar 1, 2017 at 20:08
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    \$\begingroup\$ This reminds me of the Ghouls in Fallout 4. While most of the Ghouls you encounter in the game are Feral (and therefore want to kill/eat you on sight), there are plenty of non-feral Ghouls who are aligned toward good or evil based upon their own personality and choices (just as any other character). \$\endgroup\$ Commented Mar 2, 2017 at 0:52

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You don't need to change anything

As far as the rules are concerned, the alignment of NPCs is under the complete control of the DM. In the DM basic rules, page 3 under alignment, we are told (similar rules can be found in the monster manual):

The alignment specified in a monster’s stat block is the default. Feel free to depart from it and change a monster’s alignment to suit the needs of your campaign. If you want a good-aligned green dragon or an evil storm giant, there’s nothing stopping you

The only thing you need to do is find a way for the players to discover that not all undead are evil in this world. The manner by which they discover that is the story, which is completely up to your discretion. Though, you could for example, just tell the players outright if this is common world knowledge, or let them discover it on their own by interacting with the world and the people in it.

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    \$\begingroup\$ Just some information for further reading, look into the city of Hollowfaust. A city of necromancers in the Scarred Lands setting. It's been years since I was in a Scarred Lands game, but if I recall, the city was not all evil necromancers, but just necromancers of any and all alignments. \$\endgroup\$
    – gmiley
    Commented Feb 28, 2017 at 18:31

With D&D 5e, a lot of what was "good" and "evil" in earlier editions was replaced to work on demons, undead and angels, assuming they are arch-typical good and evil beings. So allowing "good" undead will affect this abilities and spells in ways that are hard to foresee.

As long as those undead that the characters encounter as... well, encounters, being it combat or riddles to overcome stay evil, there are no rule changes necessary. All the abilities characters have will work just as before for their daily adventuring.

It might be more in line with the existing rules, to handle normal undead enemies as the "evil undead" they are supposed to be and make your society have constructs made by the bones of the dead. That way, you could have it all, without any changes. The characters abilities will still work as previously laid out and your "good" undead would in type not be "undead" but constructs. So again, all your player characters powers work just as advertised (in this case, not at all against the "good" undead, that are neutral constructs then).

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    \$\begingroup\$ Can you add some reasoning for why these two approaches are being recommended? What problems do they solve? \$\endgroup\$ Commented Feb 28, 2017 at 16:18
  • \$\begingroup\$ @SevenSidedDie Explained the reasoning. They don't solve specific problems, they solve potential problems by not having potential problems :) \$\endgroup\$
    – nvoigt
    Commented Feb 28, 2017 at 16:28
  • \$\begingroup\$ The type/spells/abilities interactions was the missing piece. Thanks! \$\endgroup\$ Commented Feb 28, 2017 at 16:30


Previous editions of D&D had powers, class features, and spells that changed or were not available to members of a certain alignment, making your character's moral code as much of an optimization choice as their race. 5th edition moves away from this; a character's alignment is now used strictly as a guideline for moral choices, and abilities that used to work off of alignment (such as the paladin's ability to detect evil or the spell Protection from Good) now work off of the type of creature (allowing the paladin to detect undead, fiends, or celestials regardless of his or her alignment). If you want to reflavor or modify certain features to work only on evil undead, that's your prerogative; however, I think that leaving them intact could lead to great moments of worldbuilding as a cleric accidentally turns the city's constable in an attempt to stave off the undead horde.


I am going to suggest a minor rules change.

In the default setting, there is an assumption that almost all undead are evil. That means that abilities that target all undead in an area have a certain utility. However, with the new setting there is a higher chance that the player characters will now need to distinguish between allied and enemy undead. It can happen in the default setting too, just is much less likely.

So I suggest that you make the Cleric's turn undead ability, which is a core class feature, selective - i.e. the player decides which enemies in the area of effect should be targeted. To my mind, that is necessary to re-balance the class in the new setting.

There may be other powers or spells that are affected in a similar way, but probably not worth changing since they are more optional, and not such a core part of the classes involved.

Thematically, it will also make sense that even the good deities will not want to have blanket opposition to all use of undead, if most normal people accept it, whilst retaining the gods' role as arbiters between life and death. You could of course play with this theme and have the churches of good gods opposed to the civic use of undead, but you may find this weakens good religions as a whole in your setting.


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