What happens to a PC that gains ongoing damage at the start of their turn?
For example, Lolths Brutal Swarm has an aura that means any character starting its turn in the aura is attacked. The attack deals damage and ongoing 10 damage.
Now, as it's the start of their turn, do we apply the ongoing damage or is their turn considered started and thus we apply on their next turn? As a side question to this, if they gain the ongoing damage on their turn, do they get to save against it at the end of their turn?
If they do it almost renders the ongoing damage pointless unless they fail the save.