So me and my DM have been arguing on how Twinned spell works.

Twinned spell:

When you cast a spell that targets only one creature and doesn't have a range of self, you can spend a number of sorcery points equal to the spell's level to target a second creature in range with the same spell (1 sorcery point if the spell is a cantrip).

I argued that "a second creature" can be a the same target as it is not worded as "another creature"

For this example counter spell with twinned spell.

A wizard casts fireball on me

I use CounterSpell#1 with Twinned Spell

Wizard casts CounterSpell on my CounterSpell#1 I use him as the same

target for my twinned Spell CounterSpell#2

Result countered

Is this possible?


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First off, "a second creature" is here synonymous with "another creature." Your DM is right on this front. Jeremy Crawford has clarified such a point before:

Q: Hey, can twinned spell, target the same person twice?

Jeremy: If a rule, such as Twinned Spell, says you affect one creature and then a second creature, those are two different creatures.

Second, Twinned Spell does not work at all with Counterspell. This is because Counterspell is cast in reaction to another creature casting a spell, and because of the way turn order/initiative works in D&D, there is no valid target at the time you twin the spell. It could also be argued that Counterspell targets a spell instead of a creature, but I'm not sure on that one.

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    \$\begingroup\$ I might add to your first paragraph that the design team for 5e has stated that rules should be read in simple idiomatic English, to add support to your interpretation that "a second creature" is supposed to mean "another creature" (since nobody would use "a second creature" to refer possibly to the same creature in simple English). Otherwise, without support, it would be reasonable for the asker to argue with you on that point. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Mar 5, 2017 at 19:28
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    \$\begingroup\$ On the second point, Counterspell doesn't mentioning targeting, so I think your last sentence ("it could also be argued that Counterspell targets a spell instead of a creature, but I'm not sure on that one") is probably not something you can argue. But it doesn't involve targeting a single creature so it definitely can't be used for Twinned Spell. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Mar 5, 2017 at 19:29
  • \$\begingroup\$ The rules are silent on handling multiple reactions with the same trigger. If the DM rules they happen simultaneously, it's possible for twinned counterspell to come up if two creatures try to counterspell the same spell. \$\endgroup\$
    – Doval
    Commented Mar 6, 2017 at 14:49
  • \$\begingroup\$ @Doval I think that's different from what's happening here. It sounds like you're talking about two creatures countering the same spell, whereas the OP was asking about countering a spell, twinning the counterspell, and using the twin to counter something else. \$\endgroup\$
    – Passage
    Commented Mar 6, 2017 at 16:38
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    \$\begingroup\$ You're correct. But your answer says "Twinned Spell does not work at all with Counterspell" and it occurred to me that's not necessarily true. And now that I think about it, a similar situation can occur if two creatures take the Ready action to cast a spell when the same trigger occurs. Anyways, my point is you might want to relax the wording on that phrase. \$\endgroup\$
    – Doval
    Commented Mar 6, 2017 at 16:45

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