# When crafting an item does the check need to exceed the cost before or after paying 1/3 materials?

Sorry for the complicated question title, it was very difficult to phrase.

According to PFSRD, when crafting an item you first must pay 1/3 of the raw material cost. Following that, you must make a check to see if you successfully craft the item and how long doing so will take. If your check x the DC beats the cost of the item (in sp), then the item is made within that week of crafting.

My question is: To craft the item within at least one week, does your check need to beat the original sp cost of the raw materials? Or the cost after you have already paid 1/3?

## The original item's price

The Craft skill gives us some guidelines on how to calculate the raw material cost and the time spent crafting an item:

To determine how much time and money it takes to make an item, follow these steps.

• Find the item’s price in silver pieces (1 gp = 10 sp).

• Find the item’s DC from Table: Craft Skills.

• Pay 1/3 of the item’s price for the raw material cost.

• Make an appropriate Craft check representing one week’s worth of work. If the check succeeds, multiply your check result by the DC. If the result × the DC equals the price of the item in sp, then you have completed the item. (If the result × the DC equals double or triple the price of the item in silver pieces, then you’ve completed the task in one-half or one-third of the time. Other multiples of the DC reduce the time in the same manner.) If the result × the DC doesn’t equal the price, then it represents the progress you’ve made this week. Record the result and make a new Craft check for the next week. Each week, you make more progress until your total reaches the price of the item in silver pieces.

As you can see, all calculations are done on the item's original price converted to silver pieces.

Also, this handy crafting calculator should help you figuring out the cost and time spent.

• +1'd for the calculator, or else I'd have given it to the short and sweet one from Shadocat Commented Mar 29, 2017 at 1:00

You always start out using the full price of the item when determining progress.

Look at the order of actions in the PFSRD.

First you pay 1/3 the total cost of the item. Presumably for raw materials.

Then make a roll.

If successful then divide the week by the multiplier of the success (1/2 a week if you rolled 2x DC). That is how long that step took. Then note the roll result times the DC and keep a running tally. Repeat this until the tally equals or exceeds the full price of the item in sp.