Would the additional Stunning Fist use from wearing a monk's robe apply to a flowing monk's special ability redirection?

According to the monk's robe:

If donned by a character with the Stunning Fist feat, the robe lets her make one additional stunning attack per day

And according to the feat Stunning Fist:

A monk may attempt a stunning attack a number of times per day equal to his monk level, plus one more time per day for every four levels he has in classes other than monk.

And according to the archetype flowing monk that trades Stunning Fist for the special ability redirection:

A flowing monk can use this ability once per day per monk level, but no more than once per round. This ability replaces Stunning Fist.

Because the ability redirection remains limited to once per day per monk level, would a monk's robe instead enable a flowing monk another use of the ability redirection once per day?


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If a monk's robe's wearer doesn't have the feat Stunning Fist, the wearer gains no benefit from that aspect of the monk's robe, even if the wearer could have had the feat Stunning Fist. The flowing monk archetype's extraordinary ability redirection just isn't the feat Stunning Fist, and the monk's robe can't help him with the ability redirection instead.

However, I strongly recommend asking the GM to make available a flowing robe for the same price that replaces the monk's robe's extra Stunning Fist use per day with an extra redirection use per day. Such a minor change shouldn't be unbalanced—the game, after all, already thinks the ability redirection a fair trade for the feat Stunning Fist—, and having this flowing robe means you won't be bitter about your PC paying for a feature of a magic item that your PC can't use.

  • \$\begingroup\$ @DanceSC You're welcome. One of the big problems with taking an archetype is that the rest of the game is, for the most part, still writing about the class without the archetype, leaving many cool character concepts bereft of class-feature-enhancing magic items in play. There's no real fix for this except asking the DM. Hope everything works out. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Apr 24, 2017 at 0:00
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    \$\begingroup\$ Oh I'm not too worried about it, the item would be primarily for the other features. But it doesn't hurt to ask. \$\endgroup\$
    – DanceSC
    Commented Apr 24, 2017 at 0:09

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