I know for epic level progression, you cannot increase your base attack bonus after character level 20, so it is advantageous to get at least +16 for the 4 attacks/round. However, I was just reading Transformation and it appears that casting Transformation gives you an uncapped BAB based on character (not class) level. Therefore, would an epic level character get a base attack bonus higher than 20 just by being affected by Transformation (and therefore 5+ attacks/rnd, etc)?

For reference: Transformation


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Stealth errata fixed that

The premium edition Player's Handbook (2012) added a "max +20" clause to both Transformation and Divine Power, effectively turning your premise false.

However, how good is a rule that only those who bought the book (or who got told by someone on the 'net) know about?

Basically, while this errata solves the problem even better than my previous version of the answer and while it looks very intentional*, not everyone even knows that the rules have changed (not even the d20srd site, which is usually good at errata-ing things).

*In this case they added words, in some others pages it appears they forgot that there was an errata out already and they ended up unmaking some changes for apparently no reason.

Anyway, even before the stealth errata Transformation (and its more useful divine version that does not prevent spellcasting, Divine Power) follow the general rule that mandates that you don't ever get more than 4 attacks from you high BAB: it is not "one attack every 5 BAB points, round up", it is "one more attack if you have 6+, one more at 11+, one more at 16+"

  • \$\begingroup\$ Although the extra BAB CAN still be used to buffer out multiweapon fighting penalties. So in that way it does 'loosen' the attack cap. \$\endgroup\$
    – Weckar E.
    Commented May 1, 2017 at 10:11
  • \$\begingroup\$ @WeckarE. I feel that's included in "land hits more easily" already. \$\endgroup\$
    – Zachiel
    Commented May 1, 2017 at 11:37
  • \$\begingroup\$ Ah, thanks. I did not realize that the extra attacks were explicit. I thought it was any time you subtracted 5 from BAB and still had at least +1 remaining. \$\endgroup\$ Commented May 1, 2017 at 17:19

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