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Thunderbolt strike vs grapple

What happens when a creature has grapple as part of their attack (e.g. Constrict from a yuan-ti) attempts to use that on a cleric with the thunderbolt strike ability and has a successful hit? Does ...
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How does forced movement affect a rider?

The Player's Handbook specifies what happens if a rider's mount undergoes forced movement (p. 198): If an effect moves your mount against its will while you're on it, you must succeed on a DC 10 ...
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Does making an Opportunity Attack with Lashing Flail cancel the target's movement?

Lashing flail (Martial Power 2, pg.143): Whenever you use a flail to hit an enemy with a melee basic attack, you can slide that enemy 1 square. If an enemy tries to move past me while I have this ...
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What happens when a character is shoved into other characters in tight quarters?

On a successful Shove against a target, what are the consequences for creatures directly behind? Scenario: The characters are single file in a narrow corridor (crates and barrels to one side and a ...
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Are there specific rules for pushing enemies into/over difficult terrain?

In previous editions of Dungeons and Dragons there was typically a reasonable assurance of being able to resist/avoid forced movement, or a way to prevent being harshly penalized for it (saving throw ...
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Does Sentinel's opportunity attack trigger when I shove someone? [duplicate]

Alright, so me and my pal are working through making a 5e fighty Cleric. He wants to take the Sentinel and Shield Master feats. Sentinel and Shield Master's relevant parts read: Sentinel You have ...
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Can a monster with a flying speed lift a Grappled PC and then drop them?

Can a monster with a flying speed grapple a PC, use half its movement to fly directly up, and then drop the player in the same turn? Would this be allowed? Or if any 5th edition core book ruling ...
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Can forced movement be through allies or enemies?

The controller in my group used a power which pushes the target 3 squares. He wanted to push him through the square of one of the PCs. Is this possible? I thought that no-one could go through an ...
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Can Lodestone Lure be used on adjacent targets?

The Battlemind power Lodestone Lure states: (emphasis added) Hit: Constitution modifier damage, and you must pull the target 1 square. Until the end of your next turn, the target can move only to ...
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Does Repulsion Armor Stop Movement?

My players fought a mage who was going to drop Leather Repulsion Armor, so I had the mage use the power during the fight. Repulsion Armor's power reads: Power(Daily): Minor Action. Whenever an ...
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How does Dominated work? Can it really make me attack allies or walk off a cliff?

In one of the games I was in, a creature was able to Dominate my friend and he was getting angry that the DM forced his character to attack and knock prone an NPC that we were trying to protect. They ...
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Can I Skip the Shift and Slide from Luring Strike's Hit?

Luring Strike is a swordmage melee at-will attack power found in Arcane Power. It's Hit line reads: 1[W] damage. You shift 1 square and slide the target 1 square into the space you occupied. It ...
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What direction do you go if you push yourself?

Dominated: The creature can’t take actions voluntarily. Instead, the dominator chooses a single action for the creature to take on the creature’s turn: a standard, a move, a minor, or a free action. ...
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When does combat advantage end with push effects and deadly draw?

I built a Centered Breath monk with Deadly Draw and I as well have the "Gauntlets of the Ram" which allow me to "Add 1 to the distance of any push effect you create." Let's assume an enemy is ...
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What happens when you step off the battle map?

D&D 4th Edition is heavily map-based in combat, right down to dungeon tiles and insert maps and the like. But what happens if a creature moves off the map, either willingly or through forced ...
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Can you force movement without using a power?

Are there ways for a character to employ forced movement without using any powers, feats or items of the sort? By that I mean using exclusively skill and ability checks.
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Forced Movement: Can a Halfling really pull a Dragon?

One of my PCs is a Druid with "Thorn Whip". In our last session, he used it on a wall-mounted magic Turret Trap. Since the Power says "Pull the Target 2 squares", I ruled that he just ripped it out of ...
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Can a PC/Creature save vs falling when forced movement is applied if unconcious?

Briefly, if an attack that can slide a creature knocks said creature unconscious, and then attempts to slide him over the edge of a cliff... does that creature get a save vs falling/hindering terrain? ...
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Can the direction of a pull change in the middle of forced movement?

Must the direction of a pull remain the same for the entire pull, or can the direction the target is pulled in change mid-movement? One example: Say I use an ability to pull a target two squares, but ...
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How much of a large's creature's space must be above a pit before they fall?

Scenario: The party encounters large skeletons. The combat map has a lot of squares marked as (possibly) bottomless pits. Each skeleton takes up four squares. If they are forced towards the edge, how ...
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How Does Forced Movement Work With Corners?

How does forced movement (in this specific case, a push) interact with corners? I have a situation that is as follows: A uses a power that has a push 1. By how I'm interpreting the rules, B cannot be ...
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When I push a target, do I choose the direction?

When I use a power that allow me to push a target X squares, can I choose the direction the target will be pushed to? For example: can I push a target in front of me to the diagonal or it must be ...
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Do you get one or two saves when pushed into a pit?

Does a character get one or two saves when pushed into a pit by Forced Movement? Reading the Rules Compendium, one is one mentioned in the section on Hindering Terrain, p.207, and another in ...
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Is forced movement mandatory for allies?

I understand from this question that the initiator of forced movement can choose not to move a target if they wish, but if the target is an ally, is the ally able to choose not to be moved? I am ...
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Is teleporting a creature considered forced movement of said creature?

Is teleporting a creature considered to be forced movement of said creature? I have a player interested in a power that adds damage on forced movement and teleport.
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D&D 4e Required Forced Movement

I just started getting into forced movement in D&D 4e, and I have a couple of questions: Is forced movement required to take place? IE As the attacker can you opt not to enact the forced movement....
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Does forced movement provoke OA with polearm gamble?

In DnD 4e, I wield a Glaive with Heavy Blade Opportunity and Polearm Gamble. If my defender ally slides an enemy adjacent to me on his turn, can I use an at-will attack power on the enemy?
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Can a creature use an Immediate Interrupt (Trigger: Enemy Movement) against his own forced Move Action?

If a creature has an Immediate Interrupt action with a Trigger: Enemy Movement - can the creature use an ability that forcefully pulls the target - then immediately after pulling the target, invoke ...
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Do forced movements stack?

When a combination of powers/feats each allow a push or slide of 1 square, can they be combined into a single forced move of 2 Specifically ... ...
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Monsters that are more dangerous when knocked down/forced movement

A PC who can knock mobs prone or force their movement can wreck an encounter singlehandedly. So...thinking of ways to get around this, other than the bad idea of completely neutralizing the power by ...
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Is there a limit to squares pushed?

I remember one of the few times I played 4E D&D, I was a Con'lock specialising in pushing, and a few other character also had a lot of ranged push abilities. We ended up pushing the big bad so far ...
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Is it still valid to zig-zag an opponent through a wall for multiple hits?

An old D&D 4e trick is to use forced movement to zig-zag your opponent through a wall effect multiple times for multiple hits. As I understand it, the Wall of Fire power specifically has been ...
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What happens when a large creature stops squeezing in a space that they had to use squeeze to enter?

This is a follow up question relating to What are the advantages and disadvantages of allowing a player to play a large creature? So far, everything for the player playing the large Minotaur has ...
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How does Come and Get it work with forced movement reduction

The L7 fighter Power Come and Get It specifies that you can pull enemies in a burst 3 up to 2 squares, but mandates that they become adjacent to you. How does this interact with creatures that can ...
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What constitutes "closer" on a map of squares?

This answer makes it clear that each pull must result in the enemy moving closer to the puller. But on a square grid, don't you count each edge that must be crossed as a unit of distance? For example: ...
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Can you pull an enemy from an adjacent square to another adjacent square?

Some background. I Recently leveled up my Weaponmaster to L7. I took the power "Come and Get It." It allows me to pull anything in a burst 3 up to 2 squares and then try to hit them with my giant ...
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Can the Zephyr Blade's Storm Dance Strike be used against an enemy that has forced movement?

The Battlemind has a Paragon path called Zephyr Blade that has a Daily power called ...
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Forced/involuntary movement and OAs

The basics: Moving away from a threatened square provokes an Opportunity Action. The wrinkles: Certain forms of voluntary movement (shifts, teleports) specifically do not provoke OAs. Being pushed, ...
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What are the rules for forced movement into and out of water and flying?

The rules say that pulling, pushing and sliding is normally horizontal movement. However that changes in water or for flying creatures, where the forced movement can be in any direction. What about ...
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What happens if you Push a target, who has another target Grabbed?

What is the effect if a target (A) is grabbing another target(B), and another person(C) applies 3 squares of Forced Movement? Is the grab-victim (B) carried ...
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Can forced movement be used to dismount a rider?

Are a rider and mount considered different targets so I could push or pull one but not the other with a power? If I can push the rider off of the mount, would the "Catching yourself"(PHB p284) clause ...
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Is there a saving throw for forced movement over unrevealed pits?

Let me share a story of what happened (it was an epic moment) in one game, which prompted this question. Our party consisted of a Shardmind Psion (myself), a Halfling Rogue, and a Dragonborn Paladin. ...
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How many squares of forced movement are required to push something into a Wall of Fire?

The Wall of Fire specifies that 3 extra squares of movement (for a total of 4 squares) are required to enter a wall of fire. Does this apply to forced movement? Typically, forced movement ignores ...
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Does a creature take damage from Wall of Fire if it is moved before its turn?

Here's the scenario: A wizard is separated in initiative order from his target by one or more creatures/PCs. The wizard creates a Wall of Fire which occupies the space of his target creature. Prior ...
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Forced movement into danger: is there a saving throw?

Is there a saving throw to stop forced movement (a push, pull, or slide) from forcing you into a square that will damage you? My wizard's tactic lately has been to try to Thunderwave enemies into the ...
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