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Gestalt caster balance: what price should allow multiple casting classes to share a spellbook?

I'm planning on running a P6 (tl,dr: stop leveling at 6, keep getting feats every 5k XP) campaign wherein the PCs are all gestalt characters, one "side" of which needs to be a full caster. ...
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Could both sides of a multi-caster gestalt use Cleric Spell Access from the Rainbow Servant PrC?

The capstone ability of the Rainbow Servant prestige class states: Cleric Spell Access: A 10th-level rainbow servant can learn and cast spells from the cleric list, even if they don't appear on the ...
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How do class features interact in Gestalt?

Under the Gestalt rules, how does class features of one "side" affect the class features of the other? To illustrate the question, and in my specific case, let us look at a Wizard 2//...
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Gestalt rules clarification

I am playing in a D&D 3.5 game. We are level 5 gestalt with 2 free LA (as in if you have a race or template with LA, you can get up to 2 total of them for free. Any Racial HD are paid as normal). ...
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What are the benefits of multi-classing over gestalting?

I am trying to get my head around understanding the benefit of multi-classing over gestalting. When multi-classing, each class is leveled up separately which hurts the overall progression of your ...
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What are some ways warlock could benefit from level 3 paladin?

Our DM allowed us to start our Underdark campaign as a gestalt at level 3. Even though my main is going to be a warlock (eventually go for hellfire warlock prestige class) I picked rogue as gestalt: ...
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Easiest wizard/sorcerer spell access for an undead swordsage?

We're playing 3.5 gestalt, and I have an undead unarmed swordsage (with a drop of totemist). Now he wants access to some spells, most notably Greater Mighty Wallop. Is there any way to leverage a ...
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Bloodline Mutation Swapping Point

So, I have a wonderfully overpowered campaign I am taking part in, in which we have a level 20 gestalt pathfinder character. I am making a bloodrager/sorcerer, both crossblooded abyssal and verdant ...
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Do Kensai's and Inspired Blade's capstones stack?

This will never occur in normal gameplay, but a situation has come up in a Level 20 Gestalt game I'm playing in that may also apply to Level 40 Epic games (should such a thing happen). A player has ...
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What archetypes can be good for an Paladin/Oracle gestalt under E6 rules, or "Weird E6"? [closed]

I am planning a gestalt Pathfinder character to be used under E6 gestalt rules, or, probably, under the "Weird E6" rules. I think about the Paladin/Oracle combo, as I have recently discovered a very ...
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Gestalt druid/monk, can you use feral combat training to make flurry with slam attacks?

I am building a gestalt character using druid and monk. I saw in another post about using feral combat training and natural attacks. The linked question gave me the following idea. My character will ...
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Are there Gestalt or Hybrid rules for 5e?

Are there Gestalt or Hybrid rules for D&D 5e?
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Does sneak attack from both sides of a gestalt character stack?

If both sides of a gestalt character were classes that grant +5d6 sneak attack by 9th, would I have +10d6 sneak attack at 9th? (For reference, the classes I am considering for this are both homebrew, ...
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Balance issues for gestalt melee (or other lower Tier) characters

An idea I had for balancing higher level play is to allow characters who are not tier 1 spellcasters to gestalt. The worries I have are What is the cutoff where a character becomes tier 1? generally ...
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How to use Gestalt in 5th edition? [closed]

The Gestalt is a pretty nice feature from 3.5 edition, allowing to pick 2 classes for every character level. I couldn't find any information about it in Player's Handbook and neither in Game Master's ...
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How can one gain the Ride skill as a class skill with minimal expenditure?

In a new game, my character is going to be a steppe warrior archer battle leader, using buffs / White Raven Tactics for the leadership part. It is a Gestalt game, and my initial thought was to use ...
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How is the Initiator Level of a Gestalt character calculated by RAW?

Say you have a Martial Adept class on one side of your Gestalt and some other class on the other side, for sake of example let's go Rogue6//Swordsage6. By RAI, I figure that the Initiator Level takes ...
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Gestalt Factotum//Artificer vs Factotum//Wizard [closed]

So my friend and I are looking at doing a solo gestalt campaign starting at level 8. It's going to be relatively high-wealth, set in Eberron. Basically, the idea is that since our current DM makes a ...
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How would using the 3.5e rules for gestalt characters work in 5e? [closed]

I recently saw a post on Reddit describing some home-brew rules for gestalt characters in 5e. It seemed interesting so I looked up the original 3.5e gestalt character rules (which can be found here ...
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Can I Have Two Familiars?

I am playing a gestalt game as a Wizard/Alchemist. The Wizard gains a familiar via Arcane Bond, and the Alchemist gains a familiar through the Tumor Familiar discovery. Does the fact that the ...
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Can Class-granted templates stack with other templates that would negate the original?

ok. Potential Rules Break here. Playing a gestalt 3.5 game. I am a Cleric and Dread Necromancer. At level 15, I have 9 levels of Walker in the Waste from cleric on one side of the progression, 12 ...
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Is it possible to make a Gestalt character with monster and regular class levels?

I want to build a particularly nasty Ogre as villain, so I went to Savage Species to see what they could tell me there. The thing is, the Ogre as described there is not quite as powerful enough for my ...
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How do saving throws work with Gestalt?

Our party has a level 4 gestalt Scout 4 // Ranger 1 / Swashbuckler 2 / Rogue 1 Heroforge came up with base saves of +5 +5 +0 By my calculation the scout side ...
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Gestalt character granted the same class feature twice at the same level

If a gestalt character is granted the same class feature by both classes, is there a RAW way to trade one out? I'm assuming not because the gestalt rules state that if the two classes have aspects ...
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In a gestalt with two different manifesting classes, how do power points work?

As an example, say I were to take psion 7 as one side of a gestalt, and wilder 7 as the other side. Each class grants 46 power points/day, plus each gains bonus power points for high Intelligence and ...
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Is it reasonable/role-playable to build a Cloistered Cleric / Fighter Gestalt?

The description of Cloistered Cleric states: The cloistered cleric spends more time than other clerics in study and prayer and less in martial training. He gives up some of the cleric's combat ...
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Improving Animal Companions for E6 Gestalt Characters

In my experience, Animal Companions for Gestalt characters seem especially underpowered. As the DM, I have a 2-part plan to address this. Max out HP vs Rolling Allow Gestalt Druid/Rangers to combine ...
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Gestalt character with the same invocation from two classes

I have recently decided to run Rappan Athuk - Dungeon of Graves again, and due to the difficulty of the dungeon, I have decided to allow Gestalt Characters. One player applied with a Warlock/...
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Is it possible to change the main stat used by Wizards/Monks in Pathfinder?

I'm starting a gestalt character in Pathfinder, and really want to play a wizard as my main path. Thing is, I also really want to make it work with a monk, but the Intelligence focus vs. Wisdom focus ...
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How does a multiclass gestalt work in terms of Base Attack Bonus and saves?

Every explanation in Unearthed Arcana about gestalts refers to them as having only one class on each path except the one about PrCs, so there are really some things that aren't very clear to me. For ...
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