Questions tagged [player-vs-player]

For questions about handling game situations where players are acting in opposition to each other, rather than jointly tackling problems presented by a GM.

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Can party betrayal be done successfully?

After reading How much experience should a PC be worth? I was wondering if and how party betrayal can be done successfully, especially since it's a real possibility in my campaign. Criteria for ...
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How do I prevent a character from being resurrected?

I'm part of a team of level 20 characters (5 players total). I am a Shadow Dancer 10 / Investigator 10. Our party is in a war, and I am a spy within the group. I am planning to betray them. The ...
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In a PvP arena, how can other characters deal with a Rogue with Expertise in Stealth?

I'm running an arena-style fight between a lot of PCs. It's now getting to the point that there are few enough PCs that they are beginning to take levels to counter one another. One of the players ...
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How to support useful Intraparty Conflict

This is a question calling for tried and tested methods for facilitating entertaining CvC intraparty conflict. Although Player versus Player (PvP) seems to be the accepted term among a large ...
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Can the DM force player vs. player social checks?

Last session, my DM made me roll a Deception check against another player. I failed the roll, and as a result I was forced to reply a specific way and reveal information I otherwise wouldn't have ...
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Is there any way to keep a player from killing an NPC?

I was running a one shot for friends and a player had gotten annoyed with an NPC that the other players really liked. This came to a head when after a combat encounter the Player decided to attack the ...
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How can I handle a PC wanting to be a "twist" villain?

My group has been following a premade campaign that has a decentralized plot structure that relies mainly on adventurers "finding their own adventure". This means that while the campaign ...
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What should I do about another player who randomly starts PVP?

Characters (both players, both level 9): Me: Life cleric and party healer/support "Barb": Beast barbarian with split personalities (in character) We have a player (let's say "Barb&...
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How can I create within-party intrigue without destroying group cohesion?

I am a novice GM playing with several more experienced D&D players (who happen to be good friends). I wanted to spice up the game for them and take advantage of their own intelligence/experience ...
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How can I make and enforce a rule that would prevent PvP fighting? [closed]

I'm having trouble keeping my group's barbarian from attacking the bard I'm the DM of a game consisting of a bunch of guys from school and a couple girls. I have some serious problems with this and ...
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As a DM of a 4-player group, would it be appropriate for me to run a private 1-on-1 session so that one PC can act secretly?

I'm currently running a campaign with a fairly typical group of 4 players. Everyone gets along pretty well, however one of my player's Rogue has been struggling to find his niche in the party. To ...
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How to balance player vs character skills and knowledge

I have played roleplaying games now for about 10 years and there is one problem that is like some kind of ever-present white noise. I have not found a really good solution for it. When player play ...
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Is it plausible to have a Player Character play as a villain against the rest of the party?

If anyone has experience running a game like this, what are some common errors to avoid and tips you would give to a GM embarking on such a campaign? Specifically I intend to have a 3 PC party with 2 ...
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How do I get the party back together after a major PvP conflict?

In the previous adventure, the characters left on bad terms after the Monk betrayed the other two party members by trying to take their captured criminal back to her (equally criminal) monastery ...
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How do I deal with this very annoying teammate who engages in player versus player combat?

I am playing with some friends over Discord, and one of them makes characters with a bit of a light temper. Not that bad, right? Wrong. If you do something or say something he doesn't like, he makes ...
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How to prevent discontent among the players when one player murders the others' characters?

I've recently had an idea for a one-shot game (in my own homebrew system that I've been using for a while) where I collaborate with a player to make things more interesting. My plan is to make it look ...
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What are the uses and limitations of Persuasion, Insight, and Deception against other PCs?

Yesterday, I was in a D&D 5E group. Today, I am not. We were playing Out of the Abyss, but that's redundant to my issue, I think. Basically, the DM and I are interpreting Insight differently. He ...
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How should I play my character (who is motivated to betray the party) and keep the game fun?

My friends and I are playing a custom quest where our goal is to stop Asmodeus from reaching god hood. However, my problem is that I am playing a Warlock (Lawful Evil) who is evil and worships ...
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How much experience should a PC be worth?

Long story short, I'm about to betray my party (by trying to kill them). I'm playing this betrayer on behalf of the GM. Assuming they defeat me, how much experience should they get? I am a level 14 ...
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How can I incentivize Player Betrayal?

I'm working on a game where the players have a competitive goal (hoarding as much money as possible) and there will eventually be a reckoning where the amount of money they have hoarded away will ...
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How can I make a player vs. player fight without it being obvious?

I'm a fairly new DM and am trying to plan my own story, I'm having trouble envisioning an important part however. I have the group getting separated and eventually meeting up. Before they realize it'...
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How do you stop a group fight?

Recently in my campaign, the party was hired to deliver a shady package to a mysterious spy. Of course the group opened it and found a rare and powerful gem with the eternal soul of Tiamat inside. One ...
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Dealing with an extreme player reaction to a PC choice

Preface We are playing Savage Worlds. My character is an ex-military dishonorable discharge that was granted an opportunity to waive the charge by volunteering for a Black Operation service term ...
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Teleporting an enemy away to their doom using Gate

I was the DM for a group of guys for whom I directed Pathfinder's Wrath of the Righteous Adventure Path. Everything went fine, the players saved the world and all of that wonderful stuff (which is ...
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How can I run a session where two opposing parties play at the same time?

A player of mine had an interesting concept where two parties who are opposed to each other would play at the same time in the same session. In essence the plot would be a group of thieves have been ...
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If a player tries to persuade somebody, what should that creature roll not to be persuaded?

It's clear that we should roll Insight versus Deception (I guess) , but what should be rolled against Persuasion or Intimidation checks? Is the answer to this question different for NPCs and PCs?
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How to manage players wanting to carry out opposing actions?

I need to pick your brains for experience in dealing with this sort of situation. So, in our campaign there was recently an occasion where a character interfered with another character's actions. [I ...
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How to prevent metagame in betrayal/PvP scenarios?

Context/Research Often the metagaming problem is about how the DM presents the things to the players. We have lots of questions and good answers in the metagaming tag. Most of them are about ...
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What happens when a PC attacks another PC?

Consider the following situation: GM: You see a gleaming pile of gold in front of you crowned with a ruby the size of your fist. Thief: I stab the fighter and run to grab the ruby. How must the GM ...
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How can I, as the MC, manage conflict between PCs?

I'm on my first campaign of Apocalypse World, and I'm finding it very interesting. The PCs all started on kinda good terms, and they hang at the Maestro'D bar. But a new War Lord has come and ...
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I've felt "attacked" OOC because of IC character events. Did I deserve it? [closed]

When I was in college I had my first chance to play some TRPG. I played half-a-dozen one shot there but then I dropped out and when I enrolled again I couldn't find another group. Now, years after ...
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Why so passionate - does Dementation stack (and how to handle the mad)?

The Malkavian in our group is played by a trigger-happy player who tends to use the cheap lower ranks of Dementation multiple times per session, mostly on his own party. Dementation is the vampiric ...
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How to deal with a PC trying to kill another?

Let me start off by saying this is totally my fault. There's nobody to blame but me. Our regular group couldn't get together, and the one guy who could make it had said he was interested in learning ...
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Force equip cursed item on another character in pathfinder

TL;DR: is there a way to force equip a cursed belt onto another character One of the players I'm playing with is trying to seek revenge on another player for exploding his pet dead koi(long story). ...
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Is this Dex/Int build viable for a PVP arena playing primarily vs glass-cannon casters?

I am trying to develop a character who will be able to compete on even footing with Spell-casters by focusing on a high TAC (and possibly Damage-Per-Round) to compete in an arena setting, while not ...
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How to fool characters while avoiding metagame

Normally, both player and DM rely on stealth checks and secret messages when one player wants to do something without the rest of the party knowing, regardless of the motivation behind it. This ...
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How to handle Player vs Player in FU rpg?

I GMed my first game of FU (Freeform / Universal) rpg today, and it went well, but one issue came up which I would be grateful for some 'good subjective' advice about. We were playing a "pirate ...
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What is a good combat system I can use for a story-driven PVP game? [closed]

Alright, I know that most who read the title will go: "PVP (Player vs Player) games? In RPGs?! NO WAY!!!" Yes, yes, I know. Many advise against doing PVP in RPGs, arguing that clubbing GM-controlled ...
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How do I handle a PC trying to assassinate another?

I have a situation in which one PC is sitting on top of a roof with a rifle (which I've house ruled as having stats of a repeating crossbow) and there is another PC approaching the building. He wants ...
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How to play the Junta idea as RPG? [closed]

I'm looking for a way to play the idea of the board game Junta as an RPG. In Junta, you play a corrupt member of the ruling families in a banana republic, supported by various groups, ordering ...
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What happens when a player uses another PC as an improvised weapon?

One of my players in a beginner party in the Lost Mines of Phandelver asked about improvised weapons and how they work. After I explained it, they asked if they could use one of their fellow PCs as an ...
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How can I arbitrate freeform RP in a manner more biased towards inarticulateness?

A friend of mine made a shortish Pokemon RPG module for one-on-one play. The module turned out incredibly well and everyone in our extended RPG group has now played it (and each time the supplemental ...
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How and when should a lawful good character punish evil behavior? [closed]

I'm new to dungeons & dragons and social gaming in general, and I need some guidance on things that are making it not fun for me to play. I joined a campaign with the guidance that it was a good ...
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Is there a low-level way for one player character to prevent another from finishing a long rest?

Is there a potion or <= level 3 spell (or something else), or an in-game drug/root/plant/etc. that can be used to essentially prevent a character from sleeping for a certain amount of time, or ...
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I have to 'solo' a whole PC party. Help? [closed]

Here's the deal. I'm a temporary PC who was tossed in by a DM who decided to let me play as a Priestess of Lolth (5e, 14th level, vs a party of 10th level PCs) On my side, I have: 2 Driders I can ...
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How do we prevent the PvP death of a PC from being cheapened and made meaningless by easy resurrection?

I am running a homebrewed RPG cobbled together from bits of systems like VtM, D&D, Pathfinder, etc. (that's not the problem, it works for us). Our campaign includes player-versus-player conflict, ...
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My DM asked me to betray the party; How do I beat them? [closed]

After we chose classes but before we really solidified our character sheets, my DM privately messaged me and asked if I wouldn't mind playing the part of the double agent sent to infiltrate and, at ...
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Countermeasures against a Diplomancer

A character with 40+ to social skillchecks is always a problem, moreso in a PvP campaign. True, Diplomacy is only so useful against PCs, but there are also Bluff and, especially, Intimidate. Those two ...
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What is the RAW for sneak attacking other PCs when using the optional facing rules?

There is a PvP event going on in my campaign. This is my first PvP event, and I want to play it by the book as much as possible to mitigate sad players. My rogue can do a lot of extra damage on a ...
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How to handle the combination of PvP Combat and Death move from Grim-World?

Question : How does the Death Move Angel of Wrath from the Templar Playbook from Grim World supplement for Dungeon World interact with PvP attitude among the players ? Does the Templar still has HP ? ...