Questions tagged [saving-throw]

For questions about saving throws, often used in RPGs such as D&D to refer to a set of defensive traits based on a character's own ability to avoid the brunt of damage, resist control, and endure through some force.

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Martial Classes Attacking with Saving Throws

I've been looking for ways that a fighter (or other martial class) can fight effectively, preferably at low levels, against other high AC opponents. I know there is things like "Ki Shout", where you ...
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Are there errors in the save bonus values within the stat blocks of some 5e monster Manual stat blocks (e.g. Dracoliches)?

Are the save bonuses of some monsters in the Monster Manual (5E) miscalculated? Looking at the dracolich (pg 84) for example, I see that it's save bonuses seem to be calculated as ability bonus +5. ...
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In 5e, are saving throw results detected by the opposing party?

Pathfinder makes it very clear that Succeeding on a Saving Throw: A creature that successfully saves against a spell that has no obvious physical effects feels a hostile force or a tingle, but ...
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How does the flaming sphere reflex save work?

How do I calculate what a successful reflex DC save when trying to dodge against the flaming sphere?
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Shield Master - Does the reaction to block a Fireball happen before or after the Dexterity saving throw?

The Shield Master feat (PH p.170) grants the following ability: If you are subjected to an effect that allows you to make a Dexterity saving throw to take only half damage, you can use your ...
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Why are saving throws not typically considered an action? [closed]

It has been awhile since I played table top D&D, but I've always wondered why a player's "normal action" is not used up when making a saving throw? When a round is 6 seconds long, it seem that (...
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How are the two different kinds of saves used?

I'm trying to understand how saves work and are used. I'm reading the Basic Rules and this is what I have so far: Your spell save is 8 + (proficiency bonus) + (ability modifier). Your saving throw is ...
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In what state is a person affected by Hypnotic Pattern? Can they make saving throws?

I'm reading the Hypnotic Pattern description and it says "Charmed, Incapacitated, Speed (0)" and "Snaps out of it, if being shaken or takes damage." Then I read the various states you can be under: ...
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How do Contests and Saving Throws interact?

Say I have a Stunned opponent, and I roll to grapple them. Stunned says this: Stunned A stunned creature is incapacitated (see the condition), can’t move, and can speak only falteringly. ...
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How can I increase the 'special modifiers' section of my spell saving throw?

I've been looking into ways to make it harder for monsters to make savings throws against me, and I noticed savings throws = 8 + your spellcasting ability modifier + any special modifiers. What is the ...
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How Do Granted Saving Throws Interact with the Dying Condition?

Setup I've been assuming that granting death saving throws was probably not a good thing, but this recent question got me thinking. Death saving throws are a type of saving throw, so you should be ...
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Can you make your ally die faster when trying to save him from a Death Ray?

The Beholder has the Death Ray power. It says that if the target fails the second saving throw, the target dies. Does it count for when the players are using heal or powers to let their ally save ...
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Does the Hex spell give disadvantage to saving throws and attacks?

The Warlock Spell 'Hex' (PHB 251) gives Disadvantage on ability checks. Does this include saving throws and attacks? That is, in this context, are saving throws and attacks 'ability checks'?
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Does a Paladin with Aura of Protection effectively get twice the Charisma save modifer?

The question is actually rather straightforward and many people seem to be confused about it: When a 6th or higher level paladin that has Aura of Protection rolls a Charisma save, does he ...
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What is the difference between Ability Checks and Saving Throws?

Mechanically, they both seem to be d20 rolls with an added ability modifier to overcome some type of challenge. Why call it a "saving throw" and not just present it as a passive ability check? The ...
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What is the difference between skill- and save-specific modifiers and the Proficiency bonus?

Currently I only have the 5th Edition Starter Set and I'm new to D&D. I understand that there is the Proficiency Bonus (+2 for the Starter Set's Cleric for example) which would be applied to the ...
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Is there something that should be making my spell saving throws stronger?

I've read the many queries relating to this but they are mostly D&D related. I'm playing a sorcerer, and it seems that now that we are hitting L6-7, I'm less effective: my spell's saving throws ...
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D&D 5th edition questions [closed]

A group of friends and myself are starting up D&D for the first time. So we are starting with the 5th edition since it's the latest edition. Now I am currently building my character and I am ...
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What is the save DC of a supernatural ability?

I am playing as a oracle who has the supernatural ability Brain Drain. It says that the target gets to make a Will save. What is the DC of this Will save? Normally a Will save's DC is 10 + spell level ...
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Can you choose to fail a saving throw?

(Yet another) follow-up from this question: As someone mentioned in the question above, some 'friendly' spells (Calm Emotion, IIRC) specify that one can choose to fail the saving throw. In this case,...
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How to protect a Cha-based caster against Feeblemind?

Feeblemind requires an Int save: on a fail, the target's Intelligence and Charisma are set to 1. This pretty much destroys any Int or Cha-based caster, but the fact that the latter have low Int (and ...
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Do you gain any proficiencies when multi-classing other than weapon and armor?

When multi-classing, do you gain any other proficiencies outside of weapon and armor. In particular do you gain saving throw proficiencies?
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Do targets of Spell Reflection get a saving throw?

The description of a Spectator from the Lost Mine of Phandelver adventure says they have the following reaction (p. 62): Spell Reflection. If the spectator makes a successful saving throw against ...
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Why is there a saving throw for each ability score?

From reading the current preview of the "Basic Rules" it looks like each ability score is now granted the possibility of being connected to a Saving Throw. In fact, certain classes get proficiency ...
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Have death saving throws changed in 5e? [closed]

I was reading an article and saw an image of what's in the Starter Set box. I was surprised to see this: Ok, there are 3 box for failures, but why are there 3 boxes for success? Is it best out of 5 ...
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Can someone agree (under duress) to forego a saving throw and can you tell if they comply or not?

Suppose a cleric wants to question an NPC under the effects of a "Zone of Truth" spell. And suppose said cleric or a member of her party has the ability to strong-arm the NPC into agreeing. Can part ...
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How do saving throws work with Gestalt?

Our party has a level 4 gestalt Scout 4 // Ranger 1 / Swashbuckler 2 / Rogue 1 Heroforge came up with base saves of +5 +5 +0 By my calculation the scout side ...
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What are the implications of letting a player skip the Save Ends on effects?

I'm a new GM to D&D 4e, and today this situation happened during our game: a player was hit by a Beholder Eye Tyrant, and started taking 2d20 ongoing damage (save ends). The player however changed ...
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How can I make a high level magus fail a will save?

We are playing an epic level campaign in which all PCs and most NPCs are 20th level. This has been really fun but I am quickly finding that it is very hard to get an advantage over some of the people ...
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Trouble with certain spell saving throws

Some of them are a bit confusing. Take, for example, Ghoul Touch. It states "Saving Throw Fortitude negates," but in the text it mentions that it "causes all living creatures in a 10-foot-radius ...
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Where does a temporary ability bonus count for in spellcasting?

A "Headband of Inspired Wisdom +2" adds +2 to your Wisdom score. So a +1 to you Wisdom modifier. The first 24 hours it is worn you get a temporary ability bonus after that it is permanent for as long ...
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Spell DC Saving Throws

In the Class sections, each class Spell DC is stated as "8 + your [Ability] modifier." So for example, a Mage with 16 Intelligence would have a Spell DC of 11. However, on page 28 of How To Play, it ...
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Do you always get a Will save?

In D&D is there any situation where a player character could not be given a will save? Such as unconscious, insane, already under a previous illusion? If you are not in control of your mental ...
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If a DM uses Zone of Truth as a permanent effect, should creatures get only one save?

In my current setting, the local temple has a permanent Zone of Truth effect in the main hall. While I intended the effect to be an innate quality of the stone used to build the temple, there is no ...
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Do you still roll a saving throw against effects that your character is immune to?

This question deals explicitly in how the mechanics of Pathfinder functions and not in how I should resolve this at the table; in Pathfinder, if a character is immune to an effect and then targeted by ...
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Can a character save against a harmful spell they thought to be harmless?

It's a pretty simple question, but I can't find a definite answer: The cleric tells the warrior he is going to cast a Cure spell on him (harmless spell). The warrior says ok. The cleric instead ...
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Within 6 levels is there any way to change your save DC from Wisdom to Charisma for a Cleric?

I'm playing in an E6 game (caps out at level 6) and with the stats I rolled and templates I'd like to apply, I end up with a downright amazing Charisma score. Unfortunately, I'm playing a cleric and ...
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Is it possible to save from ongoing damage, if submerged in the source of the damage every turn?

Specifically: in H2: thunderspire Labyrinth in the Hall of the Crimson Whip, there are pools of poisonous blood. The damage states: "Any creature that is not a demon and enters or starts its turn in a ...
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How much of a large's creature's space must be above a pit before they fall?

Scenario: The party encounters large skeletons. The combat map has a lot of squares marked as (possibly) bottomless pits. Each skeleton takes up four squares. If they are forced towards the edge, how ...
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Multiclass total saving throw adjustment in Pathfinder

Adding base attack bonuses, saving throw bonuses from prior class is throwing me for a loop. Example Barbarian level 3 decides Bard level 1 will be next. BAB +3 FORT +3 REF + 1 WILL +1 (barbarian 3) ...
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Silence spell and when to roll saving throw

This is the spell (as most people know). The saving throw section makes me confused. It is a powerful spell and the description reads as: The spell can be centred on a creature, and the effect ...
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Where do I find the saving throws matrix for monsters in AD&D

In the Dungeon Master's Guide it gives you a matrix for character saving throws but I can not find the matrix for monster's saving throws, where can I find this?
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Does a monster that saves against effect that gets reapplied by Dark Reach of Xevut get to save again?

In response to a monster saving against a dominate effect at the end of its turn, I successfully hit with Dark Reach of Xevut and chose to apply the dominate back to the same monster as an immediate ...
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Unusually Unfair Trap in White Plume Mountain

In the 3rd Edition rewrite of the famous module White Plume Mountain, the titular dungeon gets modified highly successfully to use 3rd Edition rules while staying very true to the original version in ...
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The effects of saving throws on mind reading

A number of creatures in D&D systems (specific editions may not be necessary here, but let's use 3/3.5/3.75 for simplicity) have the ability to use spell or spell-like effects such as Detect ...
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How does a mount interact with its rider in regards to Reflex saves?

In this episode of 'Wasting Time with Phill', we take a look at how mounts and riders interact with their saving throws. How does a mount interact with its rider in regards to Reflex saves? If a ...
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Do Saving Throw Bonuses Apply to Death Saving Throws?

In D&D 4e, do death saving throws gain a benefit from powers, feats, features, etc. that provide a bonus to normal saving throws? Or are they considered wholly unique things? This is, of course, ...
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When exactly do I make a saving throw?

I had a slight argument with my DM and another player a few weeks ago when we were playing a modified version of D&D 4th. My wizard(-ish) character attacked another PC with a spell (specifically ...
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What happens if I decide to skip saving?

What happens if I am afflicted with a condition that worsens on a failed save and choose not to try to save? Do I: Automatically suffer the effects of the failed save? Keep my current condition? Have ...
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Can a stabilized dying player continue to make death saving throws on their turn?

This came up in our game this past week. A character is reduced to negative hit points and is dying. Our Psion uses a conjuration to stabilize the dying character on that character's turn. I ...