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This is a delicate thing to pull off as a GM, because it involves finessing the subtle aspects of a player's agency vs the rest of the imagined world. The usual model of player agency is that the player has agency as far as their character and character actions are concerned, while the GM has agency for everything else in the world. It's a good model and ...

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Honestly, it depends. If we're talking vague things like "he is/isn't charismatic", it would depend on his personality. For example, Johnny Bravo thinks he has high Charisma. He doesn't, but he was convinced he did because of how he saw himself. If you're playing an egocentric character, this may be the case for him as well. If your character is down-to-...

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From the description of Charisma in the Basic Rules: Charisma measures your ability to interact effectively with others. It includes such factors as confidence and eloquence, and it can represent a charming or commanding personality. You can say the sweetest laced words in the world, but if you say them condescendingly or without the presence to gain ...

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By itself, an odd number in an ability score does not offer any bonus to modifiers (13 is no better than 12). However, it does allow the character to increase it's bonus easier when they have the opportunity to increase their ability scores. (13 to 14 means +1 to +2) Some such occasions would be Ability Score Increases (Gained at level up): Choosing 2 ...

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The formula is simply: $$\frac{\mathrm{ability} - 10}{2}$$ with the result rounded down, if it contains any halves.

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Option One: Non-Random Ability Score Generation Rather than giving up control of how powerful player characters are to the whims of fate, you can instead use systems that attempt to consistently produce ability scores at an established level of quality. The two most popular schemes for doing so are standard arrays and point-buy systems. Standard arrays ...

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This answer includes a frame challenge. 0. Let go of the fallacy of perfect balance What I am looking for is a good resolution, or compromise, so that my players don't feel slighted and no one ends up with very high or very low numbers, creating overshadowing or spotlighting issues. Oddly enough, over the years that I played "roll 'em up" since ...

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Casters become much stronger The largest problem I foresee is Save DC. By RAW, Save DC is soft-capped at 19. 8 + Proficiency + Ability. Without the 20 cap, that goes to 24 or more, raising the save DC to 21, plus bonuses from magic items, specialized builds, etc. This is a problem because Save DC is tied to a single ability score but can force saving ...

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It is better to take the array. There are several reasons for having all players start with the same points then choose their stats: Consistency - you'll never have to worry about a player who rolls poorly being stuck with bad scores across the board. Fairness - you won't end up with any players rolling really well and having multiple high scores. ...

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Unarmed attacks can crit, but do not do double damage Can an unarmed strike crit? - Yes If you roll a 20 on an unarmed strike, it is considered a critical hit. This means that it will automatically hit regardless of the opponent's AC and has the potential to cause 2 failed death saving throws from a creature at 0 HP. However, a critical hit does not get ...

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Ability scores can decrease. See, for instance, the shadow and its strength drain ability. Even with score-generation methods that floor scores at 8, it'd only take two drains to threaten a PC with a strength below 3. (Other answers point out feeblemind, wild shapes that could have a stat below 3, and monstrous races with negative racial modifiers found ...

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You're not gonna die when you level With the following release of PHB errata it has been clarified that you will gain a minimum of 1HP when you level: add the total (minimum of 1). This new rule ensures that when levelling up, you will not lose HP or create a situation where you are unconscious and unable to gain a HP because your max is zero.

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Racial ability score adjustments are only added once at character creation. The Player's Handbook is explicit about how ability scores improve. The ability score improvement class feature says: When you reach 4th level, and again at 8th, 12th, 16th and 19th level, you can increase one ability score of your choice by 2, or you can increase two ability ...

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Disclaimer: Overall I prefer point buy. For rolled characters in a long campaign, where the PC/PC imbalance can annoy me, this is my preferred solution for keeping a similar level of "fair starting position": Let everyone roll an unassigned array of stat values. Use any method you like, such as 4d6 drop lowest, in order to help keep the stats in the range ...

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Wisdom: Prime Requisite versus Spell Casting Ability The thing that originally made Clerics different was the prime requisite being the Wisdom score. Druids, being a sub-class of Cleric, were along for the ride. TL;DR: originally, to differentiate the (hybrid) Cleric from the (pure)Magic User and the (pure)Fighting Man How? Via the prime requisite ...

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Seems legit. Real people having a hard time finding meals can eat like that, and hard-luck adventurers are the kind of people who might see a lot of time between meals. For someone who can afford to eat though, going hungry is foolish. Having a full belly when you have the opportunity to get one is just a matter of being prepared for the worst when you're ...

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I'd recommend Wisdom, based on how that ability is described in the rules: A character with high Wisdom has good judgment, empathy, and a general awareness of what’s going on. Wisdom Measures: Awareness, intuition, insight (p. 8 Basic Rules) Wisdom, measuring perception and insight (p. 57 Basic Rules) A Wisdom check might reflect an ...

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Don't do it. The XP guidance in the DMG already cover how party size factors into things. If your goal is... to avoid the necessity of balancing every encounter with other means ...you're doing exactly the opposite. The encounter system is designed with the standard array in mind. Deliberately weakening characters across the board is going to require ...

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There are no rules, but Int 3 seems like a dividing line in 5e The following spells seem to treat Int 3 or less as unintelligent: Animal Messenger: "If the beast's Intelligence is 4 or higher, the spell fails. " Awaken: "must have either no Intelligence score or an Intelligence of 3 or less" Detect Thoughts: "If the creature you choose has an Intelligence ...

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Ability scores cannot go over 30 RAW and Rules as Intended agree. RAW The PHB defines a general rule which says that the ability score maximum is 30. A score of 18 is the highest that a person usually reaches. Adventurers can have scores as high as 20, and monsters and divine beings can have scores as high as 30. (PHB p. 173) It then goes on to list a ...

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All I could find that might work was one specific weapon from Waterdeep There is a weapon in the Waterdeep: Dragon Heist module (p. 201) whose description includes (Spoiler Alert!): Presumably this unique longbow would have its remaining stats be the same as other longbows: heavy, and two-handed, and has the ammunition property. Whether this longbow lets ...

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Spell texts seem to suggest that the limit for sentience is 3. The description of Intelligence in the definition of ability scores says that 3 is the usual minimum for PCs (PHB 7): The abilities are Strength, Dexterity, Constitution, Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma, and they typically range from 3 to 18 for most adventurers. The Animal Friendship ...

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Monsters can have lower ability scores than player characters, and the same table can be used for their attribute modifiers. You can see several examples in Appendix D of the PHB. A few selecions: Both bats and rats have a Strength of 2 and an Intelligence of 2. A frog has Strength 1, Intelligence 1 and Charisma 3. The Monsters Manual has many more ...

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I went ahead and implemented this in R. You can see the code here: https://gist.github.com/DarwinAwardWinner/34dd19f302bd1ef24310f6098dc3218d This code enumerates every possible roll of "4d6 drop lowest, reroll 7 or lower" in order to determine the exact probabilities of rolling each stat from 8 to 18. Then it uses these to compute the exact probability of ...

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In this unofficial tweet, Jeremy Crawford states that the prerequisite ability scores for multiclassing are intended to be met by your base score and not a temporary score. As such, we can infer that magic items that don't permanently increase your ability scores wouldn't work. Keith @mikemearls @JeremyECrawford would a temporary stat bump fulfill a ...

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This blog post has some AnyDice scripts for the 4d6 drop lowest stat generation. Looking at the results, the average rolled array should be 16, 14, 13, 12, 10, 9. That's pretty close to the 15, 14, 13, 12, 10, 8 standard array, although slightly better. So really they're likely to give you about the same results overall. Roll if you want the chance for ...

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There are no general rules for ability damage, almost certainly because ability damage in 5e is incredibly rare. With that said, there are some sources of ability damage, so it's worth taking a look at them. The following effects are the only sources of ability damage I can find: The Intellect Devourer's Devour Intellect ability (MM 191), which can reduce ...

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Lots of things going against you...why not Monk? As a Battlemaster Fighter, you will find lots of hurdles to get past. Its not just having few weapon options, few maneuvers to choose from, or severe lack of armor choices; there is literally nothing that having Wisdom for a Battlemaster will benefit (beyond skills) However, as a Monk, your AC is increased, ...

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This is an opportunity, not a problem I can understand why you are concerned. I thought much the same in my early gaming days, but with experience I came to realise that it's much less of an issue than you would think. Roles matter more than stats For combat balance it is more important that you have balanced combat roles than diverse ability scores. A ...

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I know this is old but I think the current answers are close but slightly inadequate. I think the formula itself (rather than comments/descriptions) needs to account for rounding somehow, so here is an actual formula (in Google Sheets or Microsoft Excel syntax) that does work, and I feel is human-readable: =(ROUNDDOWN(A1/2) - 5) Where A1 is the ability ...

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