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Apr 23, 2018 at 21:41 comment added HellSaint By the way, as the question is framed, your answer is completely valid and probably solves the problem, I even upvoted it. I won't edit the question with this extra detail because I want it to be more useful than just for me. Still, I wanted to clarify why the first point from your answer isn't exactly what I am looking for.
Apr 23, 2018 at 21:39 comment added HellSaint As I mentioned in another comment, the main point of the question is to solve the problem once it is created, not exactly "don't create it" - e.g., rolling on secrecy solves the 1st problem by not creating it as well as your answer (and on a side note, this is indeed how I usually rule it - "you can't see any sign of the NPC to be lying"). I am more worried about the players' mindset that leads to the problem once the scenario is created. That's why there were several examples and the question is slightly more broad, but still specific.
Apr 23, 2018 at 21:03 history answered Greenstone Walker CC BY-SA 3.0