immunity interact with carryover damage after reducing a Polymorphed (or Wild Shaped) form to 0 HP?

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Oct 9, 2020 at 15:37	history	edited	David Coffron	CC BY-SA 4.0	added 550 characters in body
Jun 29, 2020 at 22:12	comment	added	David Coffron		@Shane Whether the damage is "applied", "taken", "carried over", or whatever other description, the damage is still halved as the rule for resistance makes no distinction: "If a creature or an object has resistance to a damage type, damage of that type is halved against it."
Jun 29, 2020 at 22:11	comment	added	David Coffron		@Shane Just because the wording is different does not mean that they do different things. There were many designers working on the game in tandem, and even ignoring that, many features which work identically have different wording. One particularly salient example is the Abjuration wizard's level 2 and level 6 features. The level 2 features says: "Whenever you take damage, the ward takes the damage instead." while the level 6 feature says "you can use your reaction to cause your Arcane Ward to absorb that damage". These abilities are worded differently but do the same thing.
Jun 29, 2020 at 21:42	comment	added	Shane		So you understand that they are different words, words that mean different things, that the game designers use the same words when they want the words to mean the same thing, but the different words mean the same thing here in this case. Even though, as you point out, there is no specific ruling saying that. Ok. I get it now.
Jun 29, 2020 at 18:25	comment	added	David Coffron		@Shane I know they are different wording, but they both yield the same effect: the creature takes damage (which trivgers resistance). Jeremy Crawford's tweets are not considered official rulings any more, and the Sage Advice document (which is) has no such language as far as I know.
Jun 29, 2020 at 18:22	comment	added	Shane		Except for the fact that 'carries over' and 'is applied' are actually different words and mean different things. If they meant the same thing, they'd have used the same words. That's how rules work. Plus there's the sage adive that came out 4 years before this answer that explicitly states it sageadvice.eu/2014/11/04/warding-bond `Resistance is applied only once to any instance of damage.`
Jun 25, 2020 at 13:18	comment	added	David Coffron		@Shane There are no textual evidence that "carries over" and "is applied" have different implications in the rules. In either case, a target with resistance is being affected by damage (which is then halved). Your other point about multiple instances carries more weight, but the creature only ever has one instance at a time. The rule doesn't say that multiple instances can't apply to the same damage source, just that they only count as one at a given time.
Jun 25, 2020 at 5:40	comment	added	Shane		PHB explicitly states that resistances can't be applied twice `Multiple instances of resistance or vulnerability that affect the same damage type count as only one instance` More importantly polymorph states `If it reverts as a result of dropping to 0 hit points, any excess damage carries over to its normal form.` Carries over to the normal form, not is applied to the normal form.
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Jul 5, 2018 at 17:28	history	edited	David Coffron	CC BY-SA 4.0	added 506 characters in body
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Jul 4, 2018 at 17:38	history	answered	David Coffron	CC BY-SA 4.0