Timeline for Hoar's dogma seems to indicate to value true justice above the law. Are there further details on this in other sources?
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| Mar 21, 2019 at 21:01 | vote | accept | valepu | ||
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| Mar 20, 2019 at 19:07 | answer | added | ZwiQ | timeline score: 2 | |
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| Mar 19, 2019 at 15:08 | comment | added | valepu | I have edited the question hoping to not be opinion based anymore this way. | |
| Mar 19, 2019 at 15:07 | history | edited | valepu | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Rephrased to not be opinion based
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| Mar 19, 2019 at 14:02 | comment | added | Hey I Can Chan | @Mołot O, sure, but answers—depending, of course, on how the asker revises the question—are supposed to focus on one aspect of Hoar's dogma not on Hoar himself. I think that if it's even possible to trace the development of that aspect through multiple editions and that dogma changes, the asker might find knowledge of such changes useful. (Then the player can say, "My faith sees me worship Hoar as he was before [cosmic event that shook the Realms… again],") | |
| Mar 19, 2019 at 13:56 | comment | added | Mołot | @HeyICanChan as far as I remember edition changes were reflected as world changes in Forgotten Realms. Hoar was loosing and gaining prttfolios, was changing his mode of operation etc. Knowing it's 3.5 helps to know what stage of Hoar we are talking about. Of course, just giving the point of FR history would work even better. | |
| Mar 19, 2019 at 13:52 | comment | added | Hey I Can Chan |
(Also, if you're going to ask only about Hoar's dogma, you may not care what edition of D&D it's from. If that's the case, consider tagging the question instead as dungeons-and-dragons and lore to broaden the sources answers can draw from.)
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| Mar 19, 2019 at 13:49 | comment | added | valepu | Allright i will limit the question on the dogma part, thanks | |
| Mar 19, 2019 at 13:48 | comment | added | Hey I Can Chan | Sorry, but, on that last part — and how does this work for a LN character —, no; that will see the question remain on hold. Opinions on what lawful neutral means depend starkly on the individual. In fact, agreement on what any alignment means will be startlingly rare. You're better off asking that last part of the DM. | |
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| Mar 19, 2019 at 13:40 | comment | added | valepu | Will try, thanks. Would it be ok if i ask something like that "Hoar's dogma says justice is above the law. Do official sources provide any further explanation of this aspect this god's dogma and how does this work for a LN character?" | |
| Mar 19, 2019 at 13:37 | comment | added | Hey I Can Chan | May I suggest rephrasing this to something like Hoar's dogma says justice is above the law. Do official sources provide any further explanation of this aspect this god's dogma? | |
| Mar 19, 2019 at 13:32 | comment | added | valepu | I asked this question knowing this might've been the question's end, but I was hoping that having 2 definite sides to choose from would be enough to avoid it being both "too broad" and "opinion based". I'll try to rephrase it entirely in a different way (i have made some edits but i reckon it's not enough) | |
| Mar 19, 2019 at 13:28 | comment | added | Mołot | Consider rephrasing this question to ask about sources and what do they say about the deity, his approach to law and justice. This could be objective. forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Hoar could be helpful then. Now, there is simply no hard and fast way to know what chatter of certain alignment would or wouldn't say. Alignment is only a shortcut to a sea of life philosophies. | |
| Mar 19, 2019 at 13:27 | history | edited | valepu | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Mar 19, 2019 at 13:27 | history | closed |
Mołot Rubiksmoose Carcer doppelgreener |
Opinion-based | |
| Mar 19, 2019 at 13:26 | comment | added | Nyakouai | @Rubiksmoose This kind of question is hard to phrase adequately for SE. Plus, the answers may well ignore a flawless phrasing and still be opinion based. As Carcer pointed, the safest way is to provide the "legal ground" upon which ruling must be issued, but it can be tricky. So, sadly, I don't see a good way to rephrase (and hence, I did not VTCed it, since it would be a bit hypocritical on my part, I think). | |
| Mar 19, 2019 at 13:25 | history | edited | valepu | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Mar 19, 2019 at 13:22 | comment | added | Carcer | You might be able to get a workable question about whether or not the cleric's stance is in agreement with Hoar's dogma but the question of "would an [insert alignment here] character do X" is probably never going to work here. See this meta topic. | |
| Mar 19, 2019 at 13:22 | comment | added | CollinB | I think the main factor would be how the character has expressed his "Lawful" beliefs previously. Has he typically shown that he upholds the people's law, or of general justice? | |
| Mar 19, 2019 at 13:21 | comment | added | Rubiksmoose | @Nyakouai how would you suggest they rephrase it? This question seems POB at its core and inherently based in the problematic concept of alignment. But if you have a way to avoid that, please do suggest that specifically. | |
| Mar 19, 2019 at 13:19 | comment | added | Nyakouai | Your question "which side do you think is right" is opinion-based. Furthermore, alignment related questions tend to attract a lot of opinion based answer. Your question is likely to have a hard time based on those grounds, so I'd kindly suggest to rephrase it. I learned the hard way on one of my questions :) | |
| Mar 19, 2019 at 13:18 | comment | added | CollinB | Keep in mind that the "Lawful" portion of Good, Evil, and Neutral typically means that the character obeys A set of rules or laws, not necessarily the laws of the land. It just so happens for many Lawful Neutral and Lawful Good characters that their personal code coencides with the law of the kingdom. | |
| Mar 19, 2019 at 13:15 | history | asked | valepu | CC BY-SA 4.0 |