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Here, the vampire has all the time in the world, and no distractions that will prevent them from draining their victim. An attack roll is unnecessary, if this scene is even 'on screen'. It is a similar situation if the victim is unconscious and alone - absent any combatants, we can indeed assume automatic success. As a caveat, though, even if the bite itself is ruled to be automatically successful, the damage from the bite still counts as "harmful to the target" and thus permits the victim a new saving throw against the vampire's charm. They may not be a willing victim for long.

Here, the vampire has all the time in the world, and no distractions that will prevent them from draining their victim. An attack roll is unnecessary, if this scene is even 'on screen'. It is a similar situation if the victim is unconscious and alone - absent any combatants, we can indeed assume automatic success.

Here, the vampire has all the time in the world, and no distractions that will prevent them from draining their victim. An attack roll is unnecessary, if this scene is even 'on screen'. It is a similar situation if the victim is unconscious and alone - absent any combatants, we can indeed assume automatic success. As a caveat, though, even if the bite itself is ruled to be automatically successful, the damage from the bite still counts as "harmful to the target" and thus permits the victim a new saving throw against the vampire's charm. They may not be a willing victim for long.

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The bite attack describes as valid targets "one willing creature, or a creature that is grappled by the vampire, incapacitated, or restrained." A creature who is not any of these things cannotcannot be attacked with a bite. However, merely having a target who is willing is not sufficient to make the attack automatically successful, any more than having a target who is unable to move (such as when restrained or incapacitated). So why not?

Here, the vampire has all the time in the world, and no distractions that will prevent them from draining their victim. An attack roll is unnecessary, if this scene is even 'on screen'. It is a similar situation if the victim is unconscious and alone - absent any combatants, we can indeed assume automatic success.

Suppose you have the same vampire and willing victim, but now there are other characters on the scene - in particular, party members who want to save their charmed ally. The vampire can attempt a bite on a willing creature, but this is in the middle of combat:

In combat, most creatures stay alert for signs of danger all around, so if you come out of hiding and approach a creature, it usually sees you.

It is the DM's prerogative to assign advantage as a circumstantial bonus - and certainly advantage on the bite's attack roll would be appropriate if, for example, the vampire was in combat, but with no enemies capable of reaching them in melee within a roundwilling victim, just as this advantage is automatic on an unconscious foe.

The bite attack describes as valid targets "one willing creature, or a creature that is grappled by the vampire, incapacitated, or restrained." A creature who is not any of these things cannot be attacked with a bite. However, merely having a target who is willing is not sufficient to make the attack automatically successful, any more than having a target who is unable to move (such as when restrained or incapacitated). So why not?

Here, the vampire has all the time in the world, and no distractions that will prevent them from draining their victim. An attack roll is unnecessary, if this scene is even 'on screen'.

Suppose you have the same vampire and willing victim, but there are other characters on the scene - in particular, party members who want to save their charmed ally. The vampire can attempt a bite on a willing creature, but this is in the middle of combat:

In combat, most creatures stay alert for signs of danger all around, so if you come out of hiding and approach a creature, it usually sees you.

It is the DM's prerogative to assign advantage as a circumstantial bonus - and certainly advantage on the bite's attack roll would be appropriate if, for example, the vampire was in combat, but with no enemies capable of reaching them in melee within a round.

The bite attack describes as valid targets "one willing creature, or a creature that is grappled by the vampire, incapacitated, or restrained." A creature who is not any of these things cannot be attacked with a bite. However, merely having a target who is willing is not sufficient to make the attack automatically successful, any more than having a target who is unable to move (such as when restrained or incapacitated). So why not?

Here, the vampire has all the time in the world, and no distractions that will prevent them from draining their victim. An attack roll is unnecessary, if this scene is even 'on screen'. It is a similar situation if the victim is unconscious and alone - absent any combatants, we can indeed assume automatic success.

Suppose you have the same vampire and willing victim, but now there are other characters on the scene - in particular, party members who want to save their charmed ally. The vampire can attempt a bite on a willing creature, but this is in the middle of combat:

In combat, most creatures stay alert for signs of danger all around

It is the DM's prerogative to assign advantage as a circumstantial bonus - and certainly advantage on the bite's attack roll would be appropriate for a willing victim, just as this advantage is automatic on an unconscious foe.

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The bite attack describes as valid targets "one willing creature, or a creature that is grappled by the vampire, incapacitated, or restrained." A creature who is not any of these things cannot be attacked with a bite. However, merely having a target who is willing is not sufficient to make the attack automatically successful, any more than having a target who is unable to move (such as when restrained or incapacitated). So why not?

What is the situation? Is it not combata conflict...

The vampire has slipped into a willing victim's bedchamber. The victim presents themselves, and the vampire initiates the draining bite. Either there is no one else present, or those who are present are unable to do anything but watch on in horror - they are held, or too far away, are scrying the scene but not physically present, etc. This is not combata conflict, and the vampire should be permitted an automatically successful bite.

When a player wants to do something, it's often appropriate to let the attempt succeed without a roll or a reference to the character's ability scores. For example, a character doesn't normally need to make a Dexterity check to walk across an empty room or a Charisma check to order a mug of ale. Only.Only call for a roll if there is a meaningful consequence for failure. When deciding whether to use a roll, ask yourself two questions: Is a task so easy and so free of conflict and stress that there should be no chance of failure?

Here, the vampire has all the time in the world, and no distractions that will prevent them from draining their victim. An attack roll is unnecessary, if this scene is even 'on screen'.

TheIn addition to biting the victim, the vampire is simultaneously defending itself against the PCs, perhaps even taking and regenerating damage. It is commanding its minions. It is alert for the presence of thoseanyone trying to sneak up on it. It is evaluating whether or not to use its Legendary Resistance in response to a failed saving throw.

ConsiderNarratively, you could consider the vampire as leaning in close, scenting the warm blood of its victim, the heat of their living flesh so freely given - and then someone drops a sunburst spell at the last second, interrupting their bite, just when they were so tantalizingly close.

What is the situation? Is it not combat...

The vampire has slipped into a willing victim's bedchamber. The victim presents themselves, and the vampire initiates the draining bite. Either there is no one else present, or those who are present are unable to do anything but watch on in horror - they are held, or too far away, are scrying the scene but not physically present, etc. This is not combat, and the vampire should be permitted an automatically successful bite.

When a player wants to do something, it's often appropriate to let the attempt succeed without a roll or a reference to the character's ability scores. For example, a character doesn't normally need to make a Dexterity check to walk across an empty room or a Charisma check to order a mug of ale. Only call for a roll if there is a meaningful consequence for failure. When deciding whether to use a roll, ask yourself two questions: Is a task so easy and so free of conflict and stress that there should be no chance of failure?

The vampire is defending itself against the PCs, perhaps even taking and regenerating damage. It is commanding its minions. It is alert for the presence of those trying to sneak up on it. It is evaluating whether or not to use its Legendary Resistance in response to a failed saving throw.

Consider the vampire leaning in close, scenting the warm blood of its victim, the heat of their living flesh so freely given - and then someone drops a sunburst spell at the last second, interrupting their bite, when they were so tantalizingly close.

The bite attack describes as valid targets "one willing creature, or a creature that is grappled by the vampire, incapacitated, or restrained." A creature who is not any of these things cannot be attacked with a bite. However, merely having a target who is willing is not sufficient to make the attack automatically successful, any more than having a target who is unable to move (such as when restrained or incapacitated). So why not?

What is the situation? Is it not a conflict...

The vampire has slipped into a willing victim's bedchamber. The victim presents themselves, and the vampire initiates the draining bite. Either there is no one else present, or those who are present are unable to do anything but watch on in horror - they are held, or too far away, are scrying the scene but not physically present, etc. This is not a conflict, and the vampire should be permitted an automatically successful bite.

When a player wants to do something, it's often appropriate to let the attempt succeed without a roll or a reference to the character's ability scores...Only call for a roll if there is a meaningful consequence for failure. When deciding whether to use a roll, ask yourself two questions: Is a task so easy and so free of conflict and stress that there should be no chance of failure?

Here, the vampire has all the time in the world, and no distractions that will prevent them from draining their victim. An attack roll is unnecessary, if this scene is even 'on screen'.

In addition to biting the victim, the vampire is simultaneously defending itself against the PCs, perhaps even taking and regenerating damage. It is commanding its minions. It is alert for the presence of anyone trying to sneak up on it. It is evaluating whether or not to use its Legendary Resistance in response to a failed saving throw.

Narratively, you could consider the vampire as leaning in close, scenting the warm blood of its victim, the heat of their living flesh so freely given - and then someone drops a sunburst spell at the last second, interrupting their bite, just when they were so tantalizingly close.

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