Timeline for How do countersongs of a bard work in detail?
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| Sep 12, 2014 at 15:15 | history | edited | Hey I Can Chan | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Sep 11, 2014 at 20:54 | vote | accept | mawimawi | ||
| Sep 11, 2014 at 8:54 | comment | added | G0BLiN | I agree with you, that's much more efficient. I'm gently suggesting to make it more clear that the spellcraft check isn't an inherent part of countersong (the bard just need to use a standard action for that). The preceding spellcraft check is simply a recommended and more effective way to go. It can be confusing, since for the similarly named counterspell you normally must identify the effect before countering... | |
| Sep 10, 2014 at 15:56 | history | edited | Hey I Can Chan | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
That how was kind of important. Whoops.
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| Sep 10, 2014 at 15:16 | comment | added | Hey I Can Chan | @G0BLiN You're right, of course, that the effect will sometimes be obvious, but the problem is not that the countersong will be ineffective and the bardic music rounds wasted, but instead that starting the countersong takes a standard action that the bard could've used to do something useful. That is why I recommended the Spellcraft skill (or another way of determining the effect--that's just the most common). It's never good to waste actions when one needn't. | |
| Sep 10, 2014 at 15:11 | comment | added | G0BLiN | I'd say that in some cases the Spellcraft check shouldn't be necessary - If the bard observes an enemy cast something, and then tell the party's fighter to attack the other PCs, and the fighter does - it's a good bet it's a language dependent mind control effect. Similarly, a Sonic energy attack should be just as obvious to an onlooker as the Fire energy aspect of a Fireball - sure, the bard may guess wrongly from time to time, but most cases I can think of should be pretty clear, and he can always just try and see if it works (he doesn't have to recognize the effect to counter it)... | |
| Sep 10, 2014 at 14:20 | history | answered | Hey I Can Chan | CC BY-SA 3.0 |