Timeline for Can you use Commander's Strike to forgo an attack granted by Horde Breaker?
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| Apr 2, 2021 at 19:31 | comment | added | RevanantBacon | Read the accepted answer to This question, which explains why your "The attack action is an instant occurrence once during your turn" logic is incorrect. | |
| Apr 2, 2021 at 17:13 | comment | added | Marq | @BaconyRevanant I'm well aware of that, and my answer didn't in any way presume or depend on anything about when attacks are taken or when an action ends. All I've said is that there is a specific time when the Attack action is taken. After that point, for example, the player can't opt to instead Dodge. At that time, Commander's Strike lets you forego an attack, as I read the rules. Clearly you disagree with my reading of the rules, which is fine. Do you have any comments that might make my interpreatation clearer? | |
| Apr 1, 2021 at 17:45 | comment | added | RevanantBacon | This isn't like 3.5e, where you take all of your attacks at the same time. In 5e, your attack action doesn't end until you have made (or forgone) all of your attacks. Further, you can do things in between attacks, such as spending some or all of your movement, using bonus actions, or using your 1 free item interaction. So as long as you have attacks remaining, you haven't completed your attack action. | |
| Apr 1, 2021 at 14:16 | comment | added | Marq | @BaconyRevanant Do you have any rules support for this? I'm going by the strict reading of the wording of Commander's Strike, which is of the form "When you do X, you can do Y", not "If you have done X, you can do Y later in your turn". (Ultimately I think this isn't really clearly spelled out, so it falls to the DM to adjudicate this interaction, and for me personally I wouldn't allow it) | |
| Mar 31, 2021 at 13:14 | comment | added | RevanantBacon | Sure, but you don't immediately have to decide to forgo the attack, just the same as you don't immediately have do decide where each one of your attacks is going. You can decide to forgo one of your attacks at any time on your turn, the same as you can decide when on your turn you're making an attack. | |
| Mar 31, 2021 at 9:02 | comment | added | Marq | @BaconyRevanant I don't see how it needs to be reconciled. At some point in your turn, you decide that Attack is your action for the turn. That's "When you take the Attack action". At that moment, you can decide to forego one of those actions and activate Commander's Strike. | |
| Mar 31, 2021 at 5:32 | history | edited | V2Blast | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
fixed header formatting (for accessibility); clarified header
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| Mar 30, 2021 at 19:01 | comment | added | RevanantBacon | How do you reconcile this ruling with the fact that attacks from the attack action can be broken up over the duration of a turn? Move a bit, make one attack, move some more, make another two attacks, move again and so on. | |
| Feb 5, 2016 at 9:19 | history | edited | Marq | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Clarified when vs. while.
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| Feb 5, 2016 at 9:11 | history | answered | Marq | CC BY-SA 3.0 |