Timeline for Is a player character required to engage in downtime activity?
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| Apr 22, 2016 at 14:34 | comment | added | NotArch | That's an interesting point. In order not to enter "forced march" level of activity, you can't do strenuous activity for more than 8 hours/day. Include your 4 hours of trance-sleep, and you now have 12 hours to fill with combat/normal movement, etc. It seems that even with taking short rests, you'd end up spending more than 8 hours in strenuous activity and trigger an exhaustion check. | |
| Apr 22, 2016 at 14:23 | comment | added | SorcererQzot | She is performing exactly as much strenuous activity as adventurers exploring a dungeon and engaging in periodic combat? | |
| Apr 22, 2016 at 13:47 | comment | added | NotArch | @SorcererQzot, I don't want to get into a long comment section again, but if the elf is choosing to perform strenuous activity throughout her day, then I think that's very similar to a Forced March. While built to only need a 4 hour trance to rest, she would still suffer penalties for non-stop activity (which is similar in nature to a forced march) and have to roll Constitution saves or suffer exhaustion penalties (page 181 PHB) | |
| Apr 21, 2016 at 21:55 | comment | added | SorcererQzot | FYI: The scenario which triggered this question involves a peripatetic elf actively avoiding a long rest. She intentionally performs strenuous activity throughout her day, to carefully avoid triggering a DM's declaration of an automatic long rest. Please see the other question for details, to avoid rehashing all the same issues here. | |
| Apr 20, 2016 at 15:26 | comment | added | NotArch | @LegendaryDude, I'm not denying that Mearls didn't confirm that automatic trigger, but he absolutely had an opportunity to do so (and maybe that's why his rulings aren't official) and did not. Neither the tweet nor Mearls' response address clarification on it, but he does seem to confirm that as long as you haven't done anything strenuous or engaged in combat for 8 hours, you've done a long rest. J. A. Streich is looking at it through the same glasses as I am. Without clarification by Mearls, this seems to be the interpretation if you don't try to figure out what Mearls was "likely" answering. | |
| Apr 20, 2016 at 14:14 | comment | added | J. A. Streich | If you aren't doing strenuous (specifically nothing more strenuous than reading,talking, eating, standing watch for no more than 2 hours) activity, then (and only then) you are by Rules definition "resting". If you have 8 hours consecutive where 7 of them were resting, and you haven't had a long rest yet, you have just taken a long rest. Now, "automatic" is a weird word choice, as the DM has to know what you are doing or not doing. But, if they don't do anything during downtime, doing nothing is resting. | |
| Apr 20, 2016 at 13:55 | comment | added | LegendaryDude | @NautArch You're confusing a lack of denial with a confirmation. He did not confirm anything, and his denial seems to me to be due to missing the key point of the question ("automatically") vs. what Mearls seems to have interpreted it as ("what things interrupt the long rest?"). Based on his answer it seems more likely that Mearls assumed the question was asking about what actions interrupt a long rest. | |
| Apr 20, 2016 at 13:46 | comment | added | NotArch | @KorvinStarmast, how do you read it? It seems that Wade asks about 8 hours automatically completing a long rest if not fighting for more than an hour and Mearls seems to confirm the question and adds strenuous activity to the list of activities that can't take more than an hour. He does not deny that 8 hours of no combat or strenuous activity automatically completes the long rest. - also happy to take this to chat if not appropriate in comments. | |
| Apr 20, 2016 at 13:38 | comment | added | KorvinStarmast | I read the tweets and didn't see it saying quite what you saw in terms of the triggering. | |
| Apr 20, 2016 at 10:13 | comment | added | NotArch | It's the closest I have in that mearls ruled that 8 hours triggers a long rest. For a raw justification, it's the same as on the other thread with regard to using sage advice as raw. | |
| Apr 20, 2016 at 2:48 | comment | added | KorvinStarmast | I see your target, in terms of does a long rest trigger automatically (a point I raised in one of the comments in that other question) but I don't see strong justification for that being a rule. | |
| Apr 20, 2016 at 1:56 | history | answered | NotArch | CC BY-SA 3.0 |