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Mar 23 at 13:50 | comment | added | Acacia | I can't prove it, but I'd guess that Fflewddur Fflam from Chronicles of Prydain is an influence. | |
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Jun 2, 2011 at 6:23 | comment | added | aramis | Aside from Alan a'Dale, in Robin Hood, and Bilbo in the Hobbit and LOTR, not really. Mostly because the D&D Bard isn't a modern concept, but a mashup of historical ones, and if Hollywood is consistent about anything, it's avoiding actual history.... Well, actually, ignoring movies... Pern's Menolly, Piemur, and Sebell fit the mould, but not well. They each have issues with authority, and a variety of skills, including when needed, melee. The sidekicks in the Hercules and Xena series. | |
Jun 2, 2011 at 1:41 | comment | added | Joel P. Shempert | Fair enough. Though the "roguish" elements I'm mainly thinking of aren't acrobatics, or even scouting, but the charming scofflaw motif. Do you know any examples of this character type from, say, modern fantasy fiction? | |
Jun 2, 2011 at 0:06 | history | edited | aramis | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Jun 1, 2011 at 23:59 | comment | added | aramis | @joel You really need to read some sagas and some of the old French stories. The Roguish elements were there from the beginning. The Jongleurs and Minstrels were noted for prestidigitation, acrobatics, and such, in addition to singing. The prerequisite levels of thief are not out of place. Same for the Norse Skalds... And remember: the D&D Thief class also represents military scouts and sappers. | |
Jun 1, 2011 at 16:21 | comment | added | Joel P. Shempert | Interesting. So it would seem the roguish elements entered later as Sorcerer Blob said. As I said, I'm familiar with the bards of legend; it's the rogue-bards of modern D&D I have a hard time getting a feel for. Anyone know any (non-D&D licensed) fiction that depicts Bards that way? I can only think of Keith Taylor's Bard series. | |
Jun 1, 2011 at 5:20 | history | answered | aramis | CC BY-SA 3.0 |