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There are Words of Power in Pathfinder, like the Power Word Kill and other similar Words for "Blind" and "Stun", which affect creatures according to their current hit points. E.g. any creature having more than 100 hit points is unaffected, any other creature instantly dies.

I'm a GM, and I am sure that my players will ask me how they can find out how many HP a target has before they cast the Word of Power.

What would be a fitting check for finding out, and what would be the DC? Heal? Perception? some Knowledge skill?

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A creature typically can't determine another creature's remaining hit points

However, a creature can come close using spells like deathwatch and detect animals and plants, and optional rules like Wound Thresholds will allow more accurate guesses as to a creature's hp, but, overall, a creature's current hp is usually information possessed only by the GM.

Since Pathfinder monsters typically have a predictable number of hp based on CR, a successful Knowledge skill check may give a canny player a means to guess at a particular monster's hit points and, further, allow the PC to glean as "a piece of useful information" how many Hit Dice the creature possesses, if the GM's comfortable revealing that as one of the creature's "special powers or vulnerabilities."

The advantage of the power word spells is that they are ranged spells with no saving throws, a virtual saving throw being provided by the creature's remaining hp. And, while I know the power word spells' disadvantages are many, a caster that knows one or more of such spells and also knows a monster's remaining hp eliminates any guesswork in a way that's superior to the typical caster knowing a monster's current actual Fort, Ref, and Will saving throw bonuses! If a hp determination technique's available, a power word spell's caster no longer need guess and can word foes with impunity. Hence, unless a special ability or spell grants such an ability, I'd advise against a house rule permitting a creature to determine another creature's hp.

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    \$\begingroup\$ One such special ability is Blood Reader Slayer Talent that a Slayer can get as early as level 2. Then a move action and line of sight is all the slayer needs to know the exact HP of a living target. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Mar 15, 2016 at 16:43
  • \$\begingroup\$ @IanJohnstone I knew such an ability had to exist, but locating an example eluded me. That 2-level dip into slayer for just that talent is quite a price for a full caster to pay, though. I wonder if a slayer could just inform the wizard about how many hp the studied target had left...? And, since studied target takes a move action, if the creature has too many hp, it means the wizard shouldn't word and must do something else. Huh. Lots to think about. Thank you. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Mar 15, 2016 at 17:12
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The usual check for medical analisys is Heal.
For the DC I'd tie it to the creature type, knowing the health status of an human is fairly easy for the trained eye, knowing the health status of an ooze or a ghost not so much.
I'd also consider situational modifiers, wizards like to stay as far away from monsters as possible, assessing the condition of a medium-sized human 100 feet away should give a rough result at best.

Bare in mind, you have no obbligation to tell your players the exact amount of HP a creature has. Hit Points are an abstraction, they don't exist in-character.

In fact, I'd never answer a check like this with the crude HP number.
"It's barely/moderately/seriously wounded." is the answer I'd give most of the times.
"It's at 90/80/70% of its maximum." for very very good check results.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Yes, of course. I wouln't tell numbers as well, since it breaks immersion. But I am in need for meaningful thresholds according to monster type etc. I would say similar things like the ones you mentioned. Right now I'm thinking about a Knowledge check for identifying the creature and an additional heal check to find out how badly it's wounded. I'm mostly interested in sensible DCs for the checks. \$\endgroup\$
    – mawimawi
    Commented Mar 15, 2016 at 10:46
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    \$\begingroup\$ AFAIK there's no DC table for this. Have you considered not requiring a roll at all and just give away the number of damages dealt to the monster? \$\endgroup\$
    – Sent_
    Commented Mar 15, 2016 at 10:53

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