Timeline for What's the difference between "can't move" and "speed becomes 0"?
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| Feb 6, 2023 at 17:37 | comment | added | Kirt | The PHB errata might be helpful here: "Is standing up from prone considered moving? Standing up costs movement but moves you nowhere. When the game refers to you moving, it means moving some distance. It doesn’t mean making a gesture or standing up in place. To move while prone, you crawl or use magic." (PH, 191) | |
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| S Feb 6, 2023 at 9:43 | history | suggested | CommunityBot | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Found an example of the difference between "cannot move" and "movement 0"
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| Sep 23, 2020 at 10:11 | comment | added | Zimul8r | Hmm. "You can drop prone without using any of your speed" sounds like you're not spending movement, which is different from spending 0 movement. I was looking more for a case where you can spend X feet to do Y, and X can be 0. | |
| Sep 23, 2020 at 9:43 | comment | added | Nick | You can drop prone by spending 0feet of movement. This means you can drop prone while grappled, but presumably you cannot while paralysed? | |
| Nov 15, 2019 at 4:30 | comment | added | Zimul8r | @Ruse The free object interaction is in fact independent. The list of object interaction examples (PHB p.190) does say "Here are a few examples of the sorts of thing you can do in tandem with your movement and action:", but that doesn't imply they can only be done in tandem with movement and actions. I think the rest of that section makes it pretty clear you can do them regardless of your chosen movement and/or actions. | |
| Nov 15, 2019 at 4:24 | comment | added | Zimul8r | @TylerH In fact, there is evidence that "can't move" refers to game mechanic movement, not the more generic dictionary definition that would imply the inability to move any part of your body. This includes the Spectator stat block (MM p. 30) which says: "On it's next turn, the target can't move, and uses it's action to make a melee or ranged attack against a randomly determined creature within range." | |
| Nov 13, 2019 at 17:56 | comment | added | wakkowarner321 | I'd add to this looking at the spell Freedom of Movement. Specifically this question addresses a pertinent interaction: Freedom of Movement and Power Word Stun | |
| Nov 13, 2019 at 17:48 | comment | added | Upper_Case | @TylerH There is no need for any sort of interpretation. These terms are used precisely in Appendix A, and all relevant elements of the OP's question are satisfied by other descriptors which are fully defined in that same appendix for all conditions with those phrases. You have the right conclusion, but the reason it's right is that the difference is fully specified by RAW. | |
| Nov 13, 2019 at 17:34 | comment | added | TylerH | "Also, "can't move" does not imply "can't take an action"" Eh, in the cases of OP (stunned, paralyzed), it does mean that. I would interpret "can't move" in these cases as literally "can't move". You can't attack, you can't twist, you can't break free, you can't do anything. A "speed of 0" simply just means you can't leave your space but can still move around. | |
| Nov 13, 2019 at 1:23 | comment | added | Ruse | "The only case I can imagine where these would not yield the same in-game results is if there were a way to use your move to cause an effect while still spending no more than zero feet of your movement. I have yet to find such a case." The first thing that comes to mind is the free object interraction, which iirc is not "independent" but needs to be done as part of something else, like movement. | |
| Nov 12, 2019 at 23:33 | comment | added | Please stop being evil | Things that use fractions of movement will work fine with 0 speed, but they all currently forbid that case, as far as I can tell. | |
| Nov 12, 2019 at 18:33 | vote | accept | TreeSpawned | ||
| Nov 12, 2019 at 16:56 | comment | added | KGlasier | In the case of "Can't move", would you be able to still use your move action to say remove an item from your bag, or other action that could use your move action but not displace the character? I would think you would be able to for "Movement speed becomes 0" but not sure on the other one. | |
| Nov 12, 2019 at 3:35 | history | edited | Zimul8r | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Nov 11, 2019 at 19:42 | history | answered | Zimul8r | CC BY-SA 4.0 |