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Nov 25, 2021 at 17:21 comment added Andrew A DeMarco Another good example is Spike in Buffy. Season 2 Spike is clearly chaotic evil. He does what he wants for his own personal gain and enjoys killing humans and drinking their blood. But even he works with the protagonists in the end, because his goals overlap. He may be evil but that doesn't mean he gets along with other evil things. In fact, world-ending demon schemes are against his goals. He doesn't want the world to end because he lives in it. It has everything he wants, including happy meals on legs.
Nov 24, 2021 at 21:15 comment added Trish @trlkly Ras is a depending on the writer and pretty much the edge case to True Neutral. Red Skull however, while leading HYDRA, holds no loyalty to it - If it means sowing more chaos on his way to utter destruction of the world, he'd happily blow up his own soldiers.
Nov 24, 2021 at 9:51 comment added trlkly I think part of this might be classification issues. I would never have thought that a character who followed a code or who requires Evil to be organized would be classified as "Chaotic Evil." For example , I would would have thought of Red Skull and especially Ra's Al Ghul as more Lawful, even just going by the descriptions above.
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Nov 23, 2021 at 11:03 comment added Esther the emperor as canonically ce in swd20 is very interesting. im tempted to reply "well that's a different setting with different standards for alignment, and clearly doesnt square with the 5e description of chaotic" -- but obviously 5e isn't the same system as what the question's asking about either.
Nov 23, 2021 at 10:46 comment added Trish @Esther Ras has some depictions that are much more CE, and the emperor was declared to be CE in SWd20.
Nov 23, 2021 at 8:23 comment added Esther ra's al ghul and emperor palpatine seem pretty clearly lawful evil, at least by modern standards (my limited reading suggests that these terms were not so well-defined in ad&d)
Nov 22, 2021 at 16:51 comment added Trish @guildsbounty Bullseye, I got a job for you! Those goblins. And orcs. And if you are at it, the gravedigger threw a leery eye at the mayor's daughter.
Nov 22, 2021 at 16:36 comment added guildsbounty Here's another possible explanation even if you do want to play a homicidal character. "CE character recognizes that just randomly murdering people gets you dead in a big hurry (law, adventurers, etc). But they have figured out a trick: if you play nice with this group of other competent combatants, then people will pay you to kill things and then celebrate your acts of violence. You get to stab stuff, set creatures on fire, and otherwise do very anti-social things. And as long as you let That Guy (the party leader) pick your targets, people are happy that you do this and pay you for it.
Nov 22, 2021 at 15:06 history answered Trish CC BY-SA 4.0