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The description of the Cloak of Elvenkind magic item says:

While you wear this cloak with its hood up, Wisdom (Perception) checks made to see you have disadvantage, and you have advantage on Dexterity (Stealth) checks made to hide, as the cloak's color shifts to camouflage you. Pulling the hood up or down requires an action.

As others have observed, normally pulling the hood down or up on a cloak would be a free object interaction, so requiring an action is somewhat costly, purportedly for balance reasons.

But is there anything stopping you from just pulling the hood up first thing in the morning, and leaving it up until you go to long rests in the evening? I can see you taking it down in an inn or other social situation, but for adventuring, what is the downside of having it up all the time and negating that cost?

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    \$\begingroup\$ Well, every time you sit in the corner of a tavern with your hood up, a bunch of beginning adventurers wander by to see what quest you are offering. \$\endgroup\$
    – Yakk
    Commented Nov 15, 2022 at 19:49
  • \$\begingroup\$ @Yakk, and, if you happen the king-in-hiding of a long-lost kingdom of man. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Nov 15, 2022 at 19:52
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    \$\begingroup\$ Now the Marcy Playground song will be in my head all day! :-) \$\endgroup\$
    – RobertF
    Commented Nov 16, 2022 at 15:08

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The penalty is the same as the benefit:

the cloak's color shifts to camouflage you.

This makes your cloak obviously magical to anyone who can see you wearing it, and its function known. During dungeon crawl or traversing the jungle, this is not a big problem. On the other hand, entering a shop with cloak that screams "I'm a thief", or the throne room when you are dressed as well prepared assassin, might be unwise.

During combat, having this cloak on before you are ready to hide means enemies will know beforehand that you are the person to look for, you are the stealthy one in the party. So logically they will observe you, will be more ready to spend actions looking for where you went, and maybe will even get an advantage.

TL;DR by having it always on, you advertise that you are going to hide.

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Going by RAW, there are no drawbacks

The cloaks does what it says, and give the wearer advantage when trying to hide and disadvantage to those trying to perceive them.

As a DM, you can create drawbacks

Mostly centered around the phrase, "the cloak's color shifts to camouflage you."

So all day long, the wearer is fading in and out of perception via shifting colors to match the surroundings. This is fine if you're hiding in shadows (lots of dark greys) or spelunking in caves (lots of dull greys with patches of green here and there).

But try walking through town, or the corner store, and suddenly the wearer is surrounded by different colors. The cloak, in an attempt to keep the wearer hidden, becomes a calliope of swirling colors that shift as they round corners, talk to a vendor, or pass random NPCs on the street. I imagine the effect to be quite nauseating.

It's also a sure fire way to get the guards, shop keeps, and other people to pay close attention to the party. If they feel they need to stay hidden all day long, they are likely up to no good.


I've never run a game where the owner of the Cloak kept it up all day long. Generally, it was, "I'm about to go scouting, I'm putting up the hood." And, "I'm reporting back to the party so I take down the hood."

However, should someone try, I would let them know that the constant shifting of colors becomes a distraction to other party members. If they are standing still, the colors will quickly settle. But if they are walking, after some distance (measured either in time walking or distance walked) the rest of the party would suffer disadvantage on Perception checks (including -5 on Passive Perception). Once they stopped walking, the disadvantage would go away.

This still meshes with the cloaks natural function:

  • If hiding, they are standing still or at least generally moving slowly. So they would still have advantage while trying to Hide.
  • If you're standing still, the Cloak gives disadvantage to seekers as the wearer will blend in. If moving around, they are still hard to see and would still have disadvantage at seeing the blurry wearer. The observer disadvantage doesn't kick in immediately so that would not be a concern during combat for instance.

So in practice

  • Walking through a dungeon, while the wearer is harder to see, the party is less likely to notice an ambush
  • Strolling through town, the wearer would be hard to track, and because the tracker is suffering from disadvantage, they couldn't even focus on a different party member. But by the same token, the party would have a hard time telling if they were being tracked or not.
  • In a shop, if the wearer is walking around to be a distraction, the shop keeper will have a hard time seeing if someone tries to steal something. On the other hand, they will also be on guard so would likely cancel out the disadvantage. It would have been better to just hide.
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  • \$\begingroup\$ I think there is (surprisingly) no requirement for moving slowly when hiding — at least not on a tactical scale. It is slowing down overland travel. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Nov 15, 2022 at 7:51
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    \$\begingroup\$ @GroodytheHobgoblin, the rules for hiding state, "The DM decides when circumstances are appropriate for hiding. When you try to hide, make a Dexterity (Stealth) check. Until you are discovered or you stop hiding, that check's total is contested by the Wisdom (Perception) check of any creature that actively searches for signs of your presence." So a DM can say that walking a normal pace prevents you from hiding. But yes, there is no hard rule for this. \$\endgroup\$
    – MivaScott
    Commented Nov 15, 2022 at 16:34
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    \$\begingroup\$ Ideally presented at session 0... \$\endgroup\$
    – Wyrmwood
    Commented Nov 15, 2022 at 16:40

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