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Creatures like dragons start with four hit die and those hit die provide them with enough power to classify for several prestige classes. Can such a creature select a prestige class before getting a base class?

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Addressed indirectly in this question, but it seems fine to let this question stand separately. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Feb 17, 2018 at 21:48
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    \$\begingroup\$ Do you mean "Can a creature use its racial HD, skills and feats to qualify for a prestige class"? \$\endgroup\$ Commented Feb 18, 2018 at 0:17
  • \$\begingroup\$ The literal question posed is self-contradictory; obviously, you can't have 1 level in a PrC and 0 levels in classes. I'm assuming Mindwin's got the intent right. \$\endgroup\$
    – noneuklid
    Commented Feb 18, 2018 at 3:34

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Yes. (It's a long post.)

From the "Improving Monsters" section of the 3.5 rules:

The creature’s Hit Dice equal the number of class levels it has plus its racial Hit Dice. A creature’s "monster class" is always a favored class, and the creature never takes XP penalties for having it.

So in that sense, monsters always have a class -- the "monster class" whose features are defined by their type and HD. This section also says,

If a creature acquires a character class, it follows the rules for multiclass characters.

And those rules say,

A character may add new classes as he or she progresses in level, thus becoming a multiclass character. The class abilities from a character’s different classes combine to determine a multiclass character’s overall abilities.

One more should do it! From the Prestige Classes section:

Prestige classes offer a new form of multiclassing. Unlike the basic classes, characters must meet Requirements before they can take their first level of a prestige class. The rules for level advancement apply to this system, meaning the first step of advancement is always choosing a class. If a character does not meet the Requirements for a prestige class before that first step, that character cannot take the first level of that prestige class.

So breaking all this down, we find that:

  1. Monsters HD are exactly the same thing as "levels in a monster class" for rules related to advancing that monster.
  2. Prestige classes follow the multiclassing rules, except insofar as they have requirements which must be met before a level in the class can be taken.
  3. Taking a class level (in any class, prestige or otherwise) follows the rules for multiclassing as a monster.

So, as long as the monster meets the requirement for the PrC at the time they would choose a new class level, then yes. The rules are 100% explicitly clear.

For additional reference, this answer details the process of gaining a level.

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    \$\begingroup\$ Prestige classes are also different for XP penalties. Those don’t matter for monsters (and shouldn’t matter for anyone else since no one should use those rules), but your point 2 could be read as saying that the requirements are theonly difference between multicasting base classes and prestige classes. You might want to clarify or reword. +1 either way though. \$\endgroup\$
    – KRyan
    Commented Feb 18, 2018 at 4:21

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