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Inspired by: If you are grappled by a creature with 10'+ reach, can you make a ranged attack without disadvantage?

Also related, but targets a standard 5' reach: When you grapple an enemy, where are they?

Grappling

When you want to grab a creature or wrestle with it, you can use the Attack action to make a special melee attack, a grapple. If you're able to make multiple attacks with the Attack action, this attack replaces one of them. The target of your grapple must be no more than one size larger than you, and it must be within your reach. [...]

Escaping a Grapple.

A grappled creature can use its action to escape [...] The condition also ends if an effect removes the grappled creature from the reach of the grappler or grappling effect, such as when a creature is hurled away by the thunderwave spell.

Moving a Grappled Creature.

When you move, you can drag or carry the grappled creature with you, but your speed is halved, unless the creature is two or more sizes smaller than you.

Based off of the information for grappling, there is no reason for the grappled target to be forced to be adjacent to the grappler, nor any requirement for the grappled target to be adjacent to the grappler to begin with, only that the target is initially within the grappler's reach.

I see a number of things that need to be addressed:

  • Can the grappler move you back and forth within their reach?

  • Can they only move you closer/further when they move?

  • Are you stuck at the same distance that you were at when they initially grappled you?

Anyone have any information on this?

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The Grappler Can Move Closer to You

As you mentioned, the rules for moving a grappled creature are fairly clear:

When you move, you can drag or carry the grappled creature with you, but your speed is halved, unless the creature is two or more sizes smaller than you.

Since the only manner given for moving the grappled creature is if the grappler moves itself, that implies that "moving the grappled creature back and forth within your reach" isn't part of a grapple by RAW (if you wanted to do so, you'd need to Shove the creature). However, many of the results you mentioned could still be accomplished.

Note the "can" in the quoted sentence. You are entirely capable of moving the grappled creature with you as you move around. But you could also move without moving the grappled creature if you so desired.

Naturally, if you move far enough away from the grappled creature that they are now outside of your reach, the creature would no longer be grappled. (In this case, the "effect [that] removes the grappled creature from the reach of the grappler" would be the grappler's movement.) But otherwise, the grappled creature will remain grappled.

As such, a grappler may not be able to pull a grappled creature closer to it, it could certainly move closer to the grappled creature. So a creature wouldn't be "stuck at the same distance that you were at when they initially grappled you," but changes in this would come about by the grappler moving themselves, not by them moving you.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ From your answer, I gather that if my grappled target is 5 feet away, and I move, I can basically move them further or keep them at the same distance when I move. But if I wanted to move them closer to me as I drag them, I would effectively need to move closer to the target first, and then move away, so that they maintain the new (closer) distance? Did I understand that correctly? \$\endgroup\$ Commented Aug 14, 2018 at 14:54
  • \$\begingroup\$ Yes, that's correct. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Aug 14, 2018 at 15:23
  • \$\begingroup\$ Unless a creature is Tiny or otherwise does not fill its space, then a grappled creature will always be in a different space than its grappler. It is only possible to (momentarily) share a space with another creature if they are not hostile (and even then you cannot end your turn in their space) or if a creature successfully takes the Tumble or Overrun actions, or has some other ability that allows for it (e.g. Halfling Nimbleness). \$\endgroup\$ Commented Apr 24, 2021 at 15:18
  • \$\begingroup\$ @BlackPuddingAteMyDessert That's true. Although I think I'm missing something. Did you mean that comment as a correction to something in my answer? Because if so, I'm not seeing sure what is being corrected. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Apr 26, 2021 at 15:31
  • \$\begingroup\$ I may have been overreading a comment about moving a grappled creature closer as they are dragged. In context, it is clearly about moving a grappled creature from 10' to 5' away, but I read it initially as being about moving a grappled creature from 5' away to 0' away. \$\endgroup\$ Commented May 14, 2021 at 14:43
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If I am grappled by an enemy with 10' + reach, how does our movement work?

For most grapplers, since as you quoted,

you can drag or carry the grappled creature with you, but your speed is halved

Moving while dragging or carrying the grappled creature is explicitly stated.

Can the grappler move you back and forth within their reach?

There isn't an explicit method to move the grappled creature closer without moving, unless you have an ability like a Roper's Reel.

Reel. The roper pulls each creature grappled by it up to 25 feet straight toward it.

Are you stuck at the same distance that you were at when they initially grappled you?

Since it says you can drag or carry, the grappler could opt to move without moving the grappled creature, as long as they stay within reach and continue the grapple.

This presents the option of the grappler moving closer to the grappled creature without moving them. This is probably a pretty common tactic for a creature with grappling tentacles with a reach greater than 5' and a bite with reach 5', but without Reel.

Can they only move you closer/further when they move?

Since you can drag or carry the grappled creature, you could move without dragging or carrying the grappled creature, and then move while dragging or carrying the grappled creature. For example, the grappler moves to within 5' of the grappled creature, then moves away, dragging or carrying them, keeping the grappled creature in an adjacent square.

You could move them without moving by using Improvising an Action

Page 193, Player's Handbook introduces Improvising an Action

Your character can do things not covered by the actions in this section...the DM tells you whether that action is possible and what kind of roll you need to make, if any, to determine success or failure

For a grappling creature to pull a grappled creature 5', this DM would just adjudicate it as a grapple,

If you're able to make multiple attacks with the Attack action, this attack replaces one of them... a Strength (Athletics) check contested by the target's Strength (Athletics) or Dexterity (Acrobatics) check (the target chooses the ability to use).

On success, the grappled creature is moved 5' toward the grappler.

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