A player made a Troll, Giant subtype, so he is 3.5 meters (11 feet, 3 inches) in height and I am wondering: are rules where it says he is any easier to hit than, say, a 1.2m dwarf?

If not it seems a bit unfair to me toward smaller targets. Yet, I just started to GM Shadowrun, so I could be overlooking something.


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Assuming you're interested in 5th edition:

Run & Gun contains an optional rule (RG2, p. 108), but it's based on \$CON + STR\$, so dwarfs are usually easier to hit than humans. The following modifiers apply to the attack roll based on the sum:

$$ \begin{array}{|r|r|}\hline CON+STR&modifier\\\hline 2\text{ to }4& -1\\\hline 5\text{ to }10& 0\\\hline 11\text{ to }15& +1\\\hline \geq16& +2\\\hline \end{array} $$

There are smaller (-2 and -3) and larger (+3) modifiers, but those don't apply to metahuman sized targets.

As for fairness:

Trolls have a maximum INT that is reduced by 1. Also the cost of building a troll is extraordiarily high. Giants als have a reduced REA max.

But why is using the same modifier unfair? You knew the benefits and drawbacks of building a dwarf/troll when creating the char and size doesn't seem to be considered a advantage or drawback when determining the costs of a metatype (except for higher lifestyle cost).

  • \$\begingroup\$ The giant is an awakened so Con and Str are not his stats. He's a flabby giant. Penalties for having such a creature aside, I thought would be unfair since he can literally become antitank cover for the rest of his team when he dies and falls down. He is enormous, hence wondering were there any modifiers. Thank you for your answer. \$\endgroup\$ Oct 27, 2018 at 8:17
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    \$\begingroup\$ @StoryKillinger uhm... Giant is a troll metatype, they are generally around the 3.5 meters mark with a 11+ on Con+Str. to frame it simple: Giants are Metahumans, not creatures \$\endgroup\$
    – Trish
    Oct 27, 2018 at 14:19

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