# How to choose which Edge to apply when multiple stat pools are involved?

The special ability "Successive Attack" costs 2 points of Speed, and can be used after a successful attack to make another attack.

So it work like this: First attack. If enemy is down the PC can use Successive Attack and immediately make a second attack.

If the character used no Effort in the first attack, she can use the Speed Edge to reduce this cost.

But what if the PC used Bash, that cost 1 point of Might, in the first attack (or if she used one or more tier of Effort)? What if she used Might Edge to lower the expense on Might pool?

As a general rule, how does Edge works when multiple stat pools are involved? And how does it work if the PC uses special abilities that lead to further actions?

## You apply all of them

This is explained under Multiple Uses of Edge and Effort (Cypher System Rulebook, pg.17):

You can use Edge for a particular stat only once per action. For example, if you apply Effort to a Might attack roll and to your damage, you can use your Might Edge to reduce the cost of one of those uses of Effort, not both. If you spend 1 Intellect point to activate your mind blast and one level of Effort to decrease the difficulty of the attack roll, you can use your Intellect Edge to reduce the cost of one of those things, not both.

The use of the wording "particular stat" makes it seem like you could use different Edges (Might, Speed or Intellect) for different pools in a single action, for different stats. There are very few situations where you may apply two different Edges to the same action, this being one of those.

However, note that you play only apply Edge to Actions, not everything that costs you points from your ability pools. Successive Attack is not an action, it is an Enabler, which you cannot apply Edge to. They are always part of another action and should increase the total ability pool points used for that action. It will cost you 2 points of Speed to activate the second attack. So, if you already used your Speed edge to reduce another cost, you cannot apply it again to reduce the cost of Successive Attack, as you may only apply your Edge once per action.

Some special abilities allow you to perform a familiar action—one that you can already do—in a different way. For example, an ability might let you wear heavy armor, reduce the difficulty of Speed defense rolls, or add 2 points of fire damage to your weapon damage. These abilities are called enablers. Using one of these abilities is not considered an action.

Basically, the way to look at how Edge works is to sum the total cost of everything you used for that action, such as Effort and ability costs, then apply your Edges to reduce them before actually making the necessary checks to see if you were successful or not.

• I suppose the last statement is true even when the action lead to multiple rolls as per Successive Attack, where a PC 1-compute the cost, 2-apply edge, 3-roll, 4-uses Successive attack (not appling edge since is "Enabler"), 5-compute cost for 2nd attack, 6-apply edge IF ANY LEFT (since is same "Action"), 7-roll – Ohmnibus Apr 15 '19 at 15:18
• I think I'm missing something here. You say that Edge can only be used on actions and that Enabler abilities are not considered actions. However, I don't see where the book says that Edge is applied only to actions. Your quote says only once per action, which I read to mean as once per round. It's not the action that's the limitation, it's the time frame. Looking at page 16: When something requires you to spend points from a stat pool, your Edge for that stat reduces the cost. It also reduced the cost of applying Effort to a roll. To me, if it has a cost, unused Edge lowers it regardless. – Lux Claridge Jul 29 '19 at 20:51
• @LuxClaridge Successive attack alone, being an enabler, cannot be reduced. But you will always use it with another action, adding up the costs of all your actions, abilities, enablers and such for that round, then apply your Effort. – ShadowKras Jul 29 '19 at 21:13