I am currently playing a 3.5 1/2 Medusa Monk.

At lvl 1, I took Two Weapon Fighting and my DM said that he is counting Spiked Chains as a Monk weapon.

At level 3, I took Finesse weapons as feat.

SO... adding my dex (17 mod = 3) plus my prof in monk weapons / unarmed is +1 and BaB of +2 for a total of 6 to rolls and 5 to attack. With all this combined Flurry of Blows 0/0, 2 weapon fighting would be -2/-2/-2 with the so would I have 4/4/-2 to hit rolls and 3/3/-1 to damage?

  • \$\begingroup\$ If you tell us your Str bonus I'll happily change the numbers in my answer to get the results right. I still don't get what your prof in monk weapons/unarmed should be. \$\endgroup\$
    – Zachiel
    Commented Jan 14, 2017 at 12:47
  • \$\begingroup\$ Wait, can you use twf with flurry of blows? \$\endgroup\$
    – Levi
    Commented Jan 14, 2017 at 14:00
  • \$\begingroup\$ @Levi In 3.5, you can, though at least for monks it’s not worthwhile since they have such terrible accuracy to begin with and can’t afford the feats anyway. \$\endgroup\$
    – KRyan
    Commented Jan 14, 2017 at 14:29
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    \$\begingroup\$ @Levi It's one of those issues that's like a D&D 3.5e WWI battle: Somebody asks that question, trenches are dug, thousands die on both sides, and nothing's resolved. For example, the most recent Giant in the Playground thread on the topic is from Jan. 2017, and the earliest I could find with a quick search is from Jan. 2007. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Jan 14, 2017 at 16:16
  • \$\begingroup\$ Related: Does Two-Weapon Fighting help Flurry of Blows? \$\endgroup\$
    – Roflo
    Commented Jan 17, 2017 at 15:30

1 Answer 1


Attack bonus

  • +2 BAB (from 3 levels of monk)
  • +3 Dex
  • -2 Two-weapon fighting with a light weapon in your off-hand (unarmed strike)


Attack bonus with a Flurry of Blows

  • +0 BAB (from 3 levels of monk, Flurry of Blows column. You don't add it, you use it instead of your usual BAB whenever you use the Flurry.)
  • +3 Dex
  • -2 Two-weapon fighting with a light weapon in your off-hand (unarmed strike)


Damage bonus

Depends on your Str bonus. Let's assume +2

  • For two handed weapons it's 1.5 times your bonus, rounded down.
  • For unarmed attacks it's your bonus, because monks don't halve it.


Attack 1 (spiked chain, main hand, finessable, reach)

  • 1d20+1 to hit
  • 2d4+3 damage

Attack 2 (unarmed, finessable)

  • 1d20+1 to hit
  • 1d6+2 damage

Attack 2 (unarmed, finessable)

  • 1d20+1 to hit
  • 1d6+2 damage

Horrible, I know. But that's what you get when trying to use early on features and feats that decrease your chances to hit in order to get you more attacks.

A note on weapon proficiency

In 3.5e if you're proficient with a weapon you get no bonuses. If you're not proficient, you take a -4 to hit instead. Luckily, monks are proficient in every monk weapon, and your DM included the spiked chain in this number.

  • \$\begingroup\$ Minor nit-pick: "When using weapons as part of a flurry of blows, a monk applies her Strength bonus (not Str bonus × 1½ or ×½) to her damage rolls for all successful attacks, whether she wields a weapon in one or both hands." see SRD - so no +3 on first attack's damage... Not certain how this combines with TWF, though... \$\endgroup\$
    – G0BLiN
    Commented Jan 15, 2017 at 19:02

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