I'm playing in an E6 game (caps out at level 6) and with the stats I rolled and templates I'd like to apply, I end up with a downright amazing Charisma score.

Unfortunately, I'm playing a cleric and my wisdom is kind of meh. I'm trying to change my Save DC's so that they use Charisma instead of Wisdom but I want to do this without losing access to 3rd level spells. This specific build uses a cleric, and I must take at least one level of cleric. Do you know any method not listed of making my clerical spell save DCs use Charisma?

I already know about:

  • Dynamic Priest
  • Geomancer
  • Generic Spellcaster
  • 3rd Party Stuff (While I didn't mention it above please don't list any 3rd party material)

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Geomancer is the only published method for getting Charisma-based DCs as a Cleric.

You can enter Geomancer as a single-classed Cleric (e.g. Southern Magician feat), but then you wouldn’t actually have a Charisma-using class to use as the basis for Charisma-based DCs. The best you can do is a single level in a Charisma-based class.

But since you already knew that, the answer to your complete question is: there isn’t any.

  • \$\begingroup\$ Dynamic Priest doesn't actually affect save DC's though which is my problem. (Last line in Dynamic Priest) Your spell save DCs are not affected by this change. \$\endgroup\$
    – Mr Tumnus
    Oct 11, 2013 at 19:08
  • \$\begingroup\$ @MrTumnus All right then, then there is literally nothing. Geomancer I’d mis-remembered, but it doesn’t help much. \$\endgroup\$
    – KRyan
    Oct 11, 2013 at 20:08
  • \$\begingroup\$ Yea, I figured. I'm pretty well versed in the system myself and have been struggling to find an answer that fit. I was hoping that someone out there had a solution, oh well, thanks for the help in any case. \$\endgroup\$
    – Mr Tumnus
    Oct 11, 2013 at 20:10

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