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I'm playing as a shadow monk in my 5e game. I have the same question about darkness that I have seen. What is the usefulness? My struggle is that they have given darkness to a melee character. I assume there has to be a use for it besides setting up teleports 3 levels later.

However, as I was reading it, I noticed that it can be cast on an object and when that object is hidden the darkness goes away.

If the point you choose is on an object you are holding or one that isn't being worn or carried, the darkness emanates from the object and moves with it. Completely covering the source of the darkness with an opaque object, such as a bowl or a helm, blocks the darkness. (PHB p.230)

My question is: Could I cast darkness on a coin in my hand, and close and open my hand during a round of combat so that I can see for my attack and then be cloaked in darkness when my turn is over?

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Very related (the same situation described) - rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/110092 \$\endgroup\$
    – enkryptor
    Commented Dec 17, 2017 at 12:48
  • \$\begingroup\$ Also related, turns in 5e are simultaneous. You can't stay covered in darkness when it is not your turn, since your next turn starts right after the previous. You can spend your turn sitting in darkness tho - rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/100405 \$\endgroup\$
    – enkryptor
    Commented Dec 17, 2017 at 12:51

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Short answer: Kind of

You can if:

  • you have an additional action to spare (uncovering then covering the coin would count as two object interactions).
  • your DM thinks a closed fist "completely covers" the coin.

Long answer

The Rules as Written are silent on this exact point, but there are two main rules of relevance here.

Object interactions

The rules for object interactions on PHB 190 are the most obvious ones to apply here - ultimately you are interacting with the coin.

You can also interact with one object or feature of the environment for free, during either your move or your action.

Although this rule is not completely explicit about what "interacting with one object" means, several of the examples given on the same page suggest that this interaction is a one way-process. The clearest examples of this are:

  • draw or sheathe a sword
  • open or close a door

Furthermore the example of:

  • extinguish a small flame

is pretty close to what you are talking about here, and is a one-way process.

So, as far as object interaction rules go, you could either cover or uncover the coin for free, but you would have to use your action to do both on one turn.

"Completely covering"

As the Darkness spell description says:

Completely covering the source of the object with an opaque object, such as a bowl or a helm, blocks the darkness.

So your DM will have to rule if simply enclosing a coin in your hand does the trick. The idea of darkness in D&D is so contrary to physics, that this is a tough one to rule, but your DM might rule that some of the darkness seeps through the gaps between your fingers, your hand is not sufficiently opaque etc.

So...

  • If your DM decides enclosing the coin in your hand constitutes "completely covering" and

  • If you have an extra action to use on both closing and opening your hand (eg from a class feature)

then you can go with your creative plan. Otherwise you might have to modify it a bit: use your only action but benefit the party, find a more 'darkproof' container etc.

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    \$\begingroup\$ Human tissue is translucent. Not opaque so the darkness would bleed through your hand, mouth etc. \$\endgroup\$
    – user26395
    Commented Dec 28, 2015 at 17:38
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    \$\begingroup\$ Every substance is translucent if thin enough and opaque if thick enough. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Sep 22, 2016 at 20:44
  • \$\begingroup\$ You might be able to both uncover and cover the coin as part of a single free object interaction. I'd allow it in my games, anyways (having you roll the coin like this: youtube.com/watch?v=uVVQWh_FwpU to ensure it's concealed during your attacks and exposed during the attacks of your enemy). I'd probably require you to be a bit dexterous to pull it off, though. And we'd assume you'd practiced to get used to the strobe-light combat effect. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Mar 4, 2017 at 23:01
  • \$\begingroup\$ @thedarkwanderer I just want to clarify. Let's say your PC attacks somebody and then covers himself in darkness. As the result, he effectively blinds himself in the middle of the combat. Now he can't even move somewhere without the risk of hitting an obstacle. How does he know, what is happening right now, when it is time to uncover, etc. ? \$\endgroup\$
    – enkryptor
    Commented Dec 17, 2017 at 12:58
  • \$\begingroup\$ I am surprised that it didn't come up yet, but your hand is not an object. Objects are described in the DMG (p. 246). "For the purpose of these rules, an object is a discrete, inanimate item." Your hand is neither discrete (it's attached to the rest of you) nor inanimate. Thus, if you close your hand around the coin, you are not "completely covering the source of the darkness with an opaque object." \$\endgroup\$ Commented Jul 7, 2018 at 0:26
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Spend a bit of coin (I would think that if it's more than 10gp, then the DM doesn't like the idea) on having a tailor sew together a pocket that is completely opaque — with a flap to cover the top (using whatever material needed per DM guidance). Have the tailor add the pocket to your vest/tunic. Tuck said coin (or ring, or stone, or whatever) in pocket.

Personally, I like the necklace idea and just tucking it inside the clothing (again, confirm clothing is opaque with DM prior to starting adventure).

The point about interacting with an object as noted above is still in effect though — it's an either-or thing.

A couple levels of Warlock for Devil's Sight would make seeing through said darkness a whole lot easier.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ The object is defined in the spell as needing to be held for the darkness to be able to be cast on it and travel with it. Objects that are worn or carried are explicitly excluded. \$\endgroup\$ Commented May 23, 2017 at 16:09
  • \$\begingroup\$ No, it doesn't. you can choose any point within range. It can be on a object you are holding OR one that isn't being worn or carried. how can you hold something and not carry it at the same time? \$\endgroup\$ Commented May 23, 2017 at 18:22
  • \$\begingroup\$ Choosing any point within range creates a stationary darkness. "IF the point you choose is on an object you are holding or one that isn't being worn or carried, the darkness emanates from the object and moves with it." Which combination of words excludes items that are being worn or carried, other than held in a hand. RAW, the only way to have the darkness on an object, and have it move with you, is to hold the object in one of your hands. Or cast it on a loose object, and kick the object to where you want the darkness to move to. \$\endgroup\$ Commented May 23, 2017 at 18:33

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