As title. Consider Halledon Felf, a half-elf. At first level, Hal takes Human ancestry, and selects Half-elf as a heritage. He then has an ancestry feat, which he uses to take Elf Atavism, allowing him to select an Elven heritage.

Leaving aside for a moment whether it benefits Hal to do so, can Hal select a versatile heritage, such as Aasimar or Tiefling, RAW?


This is explicitly prohibited in the rules. You may have many ancestries, but the one you identify with primarily is your Heritage.

Versatile Heritages Advanced Player's Guide pg. 28

Though a character can have only one heritage, it doesn't mean characters with lineages tracing back to multiple ancestries or heritages don't exist. It's certainly possible for a dhampir to be born to a half-elf mother, or for a duskwalker to appear in a community of death warden dwarves. In these cases, the influence of the versatile heritage overshadows the other heritage—the dhampir heritage overshadows the half-elf heritage, and the duskwalker abilities replace those of the death warden dwarf heritage. So while, superficially, a character might bear a resemblance to both heritages, mechanically, they only gain the benefits of the versatile heritage.

From the same page:

Since a versatile heritage is a heritage, you can have only one, and you can't have any other heritage in addition to your versatile heritage.

Sometimes a versatile heritage might give you an ability that conflicts with an ability from your ancestry. In these cases, you choose which of the conflicting abilities your character has.

In the example case, the half-elf character selecting an elven heritage through an ancestry feat prohibits themselves from taking an aasimar or tiefling heritages through any other means.

There isn't even much of a mechanical benefit even if you could overlap heritages, since many aasimar heritage benefits can be done through elven ancestries. Not quite as much overlap with tiefling, but still a good chunk of overlap.

Roleplay wise... Just go ahead and say you are decended from a Celestial or Devil or whatever. Even without mechanic changes, it lands squarely under the Rule of Cool, and can add some interesting plot hooks if your DM plays on that. Who knows? You may be gaining class features as a cleric, oracle, or witch by tapping into that supernatural ancestry while retaining your elven heritage.


No, you cannot choose a versatile heritage for Elf Atavism

Elf Atavism provides very specific rules in a system where specific overrides general.

  • Generally, you choose a racial heritage
  • More specifically, you can alternatively choose a versatile heritage
    • Understandably, rules are only given for character creation
  • Even more specifically, you can take a Feat that gives you "benefits of the elf heritage" of your choice

A couple things of note -

  1. The feat specifies "elf heritage" which is a specific subsection of heritages, not just any heritage an elf would have access to, and
  2. You "gain the benefit of" which is not the same as getting a heritage; because you are not following the normal rules, you are not following the specific allowance for choosing a versatile heritage.

Then, instead of choosing a heritage from those normally available to that ancestry, apply your chosen versatile heritage.

Essentially, versatile heritage is available to elves, but that does not make it an elf heritage.

  • \$\begingroup\$ I think that a core part of the question is whether a Versatile heritage (which is inherently a heritage that can be taken by elves) counts as an "elf heritage" for the purposes of Elf Atavism. Answer would be improved by addressing that directly. \$\endgroup\$
    – Ben Barden
    Jan 21 at 18:45
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    \$\begingroup\$ Thought I did, but in re-reading I realize I kind of danced around it. Fixed. \$\endgroup\$
    – Ifusaso
    Jan 21 at 21:10

If a character takes Versatile Heritage, they cannot benefit from any other heritage, and if a character takes any other Heritage, they cannot benefit from Versatile Heritage.

In the section Playing a Versatile Heritage Advanced Players Guide, pg. 28

instead of choosing a heritage from those normally available to that ancestry, apply your chosen versatile heritage. You gain all the features from your versatile heritage, some of which might modify or replace statistics, abilities, or traits from your ancestry.

Since a versatile heritage is a heritage, you can have only one, and you can't have any other heritage in addition to your versatile heritage.

This clearly precludes choosing both the Half-Elf Heritage and a Versatile Heritage at the same time, both are mutually exclusive. Since taking Elf Atavism requires the Half-Elf Heritage, you can either take Half-Elf Heritage and Elf Atavism, or you can take Versatile Heritage. Similarly, Versatile Heritage is not an Elven heritage, so the options from Versatile Heritage cannot be applied as one of the options for Elf Atavism.

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    \$\begingroup\$ I don't think the OP is asking to gain a second heritage, merely just asking about the scope of Elf Atavism, but I think this is a welcome answer as I imagine many people reading the question (especially the title) will come here wondering this. It might be nice to broaden your answer (if possible/willing) to explain that Elf Atavism doesn't allow for the actual taking of another heritage, versatile or not, merely just stealing some of the benefits. \$\endgroup\$
    – ESCE
    Jan 21 at 17:05
  • \$\begingroup\$ ...and then comes the question of whether or not it can steal the benefits of a Versatile (rather than purely Elf) heritage \$\endgroup\$
    – Ben Barden
    Jan 21 at 18:42
  • \$\begingroup\$ @BenBarden which is what Ifusaso's answer addresses. \$\endgroup\$
    – ESCE
    Jan 21 at 18:45
  • \$\begingroup\$ @ESCE except that it doesn't, really. I mean, it comes close, but it doesn't address it head-on, and to the degree that it does, it's a bald assertion rather than any sort of "this is why versatile heritages don't count as elf heritages for this purpose" \$\endgroup\$
    – Ben Barden
    Jan 21 at 18:47
  • \$\begingroup\$ @ESCE Yeah, I thought they were asking if they could have both Elf Atavism (and the benefits thereof) and Versatile Heritage (and the benefits thereof) rather than using Elf Atavism to get the benefits of Versatile Heritage. I got it now though. \$\endgroup\$ Jan 21 at 18:55

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